A bit late, but my brief history of New Beats:

http://black.net.nz/avedis/new-beats.html#NBtop

If you want to date later ones than those covered in the New Beats page, then follow the links (at the bottom) back to my gallery or timeline by years to check out ink and laser serial years.

I've got lots of additional weight info which shows that yes, they got heavier over the decades.

hi guys,

got the new beats from Jerry. got here saturday, but just got a chance to check em out good. i like them pretty good. im satisfied with them and am gonna keep them.

so no worries about a refund Jerry, go ahead and spend that money how ever you choose.

these hats are late 70s, hollow label A's. a very nice set of hats to add to my cymbal stash. its nice to have different cymbals to choose from.

so if anyone is considering new beats...id say go for it. cant say they are the best ever, but they are worth buying. besides....how can you go wrong with any Zildjian A's....my favorite cymbals :)

a big Thank you to Jerry. Very nice guy.

Congrats on the new (old) New Beats. They're classic Hi Hats. All drummers should have a pair in their arsenal. Enjoy! ��