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I was hoping to get some feedback from some Rogers experts out there.

I have stumbled upon a 1970's Fullerton era black Rogers 5 pc kit including a COB Powertone snare drum. The drums have a script logo and Swiv-O-Matic hardware on the drums. I am assuming they are cast collets. I haven't seen the drums in person but they appear to be in very good condition by the pictures. I'd post the pictures but I don't want to hijack them from the owner. Does $800 for just the drums (BD, FT, 2 MT, SD) and tom mount sound like a good price? I know value is all in what someone will pay for something but I'm not finding a lot of info regarding value on early 70's Rogers kits like I am for those from the 60's. Do these more than likely have the 5-ply mpmpm shells? Any idea how the bearing edges were cut during this period, i.e.rounded, sharp, etc?

Any info provided will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Posted on 10 years ago
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Rogers bearing edges are virtually unchanged from the early 60s thru to 1979 when the eight ply maple shells came out...... and even that edge is much like what came before. Double cut off center to the outside. 1/16th bearing edge. Powertone was discontinued in late 72. Without seeing condition hard to say on value. But, 800 is a good price for drums in better to excellent condition.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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I agree with Ploughman, who's one of the Rogers gurus around here. Those drums would be Fullerton CA drums and 5 ply, MPMPM as you said. If the collets have "Patent-Pending" stamped on them, they're leftover machined collets from Covington/Dayton. If not, they're most likely cast. Check the wrap and chrome

If in very good shape, you got a good deal.

Hugh

1966 Rogers Holidays 8x12, 9x13, 16x16, 14x20, 14x22, with matching 5x14 Powertone in BDP
1967 Rogers Dynasonic in COB
Posted on 10 years ago
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Be sure to budget in getting machined collet noses if the kit has cast collet noses. Those era drums are great but the cast collet noses aren't!

Posted on 10 years ago
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Thank you all for your input. Is there a way to tell for sure if a drum is from the Fullerton era as opposed to earlier?

Posted on 10 years ago
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Shoule be a paper tag inside each shell. Mine say Fullerton Cal in the lower right hand corner. You can see it by looking through the vent hole.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Gerald, yeah, the problem is there are no tags so I was hoping there is another way to confirm. I asked the owner to send me some pictures of the interior of one of the shells. a close-up of a collet on a tom, and a picture of the floor tom leg mount.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Interior will be speckled grey.

Posted on 10 years ago
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OK, here is what I have. The lugs do have springs in them. The collets do look like cast to me from the picture. The interior of the shells are speckled grey. The chrome is flaking off a few of the BD rods. The drums are std size 12, 13, 16, 22, and a 5x14 COB Powertone SD.

From the info I've been able to gather online with the help of forum members and on my own, I believe this is possibly a 1971 Fullerton era kit, maybe a Londoner V? Unfortunately since the tags are missing on all the drums I can't be 100% certain. Does that sound about right?

Posted on 10 years ago
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Can you see the ghost? That will tell you approximately when they were made...... a bigger paste ghost indicates <72, a smaller (about 1' tall and 2 1/2" long) ghost indicates 9/72 era.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 10 years ago
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