Dunnett make a strainer to replace p85 & p83 on beaded metal Ludwig snares. They're a great replacement.

http://www.lonestarpercussion.com/Stands-Hardware/Snare-Strainers-Throws/Gibraltar-SC-GR-4L-C-Dunnett-L-Style-Throw-Off.html

I just put an R4-L on my old snare. Just a note the bolts that came with it were to big for older shells.

Too big as in they wouldn't fit through the holes?

Yes, used some smaller diameter bolts & washers to secure it. Wasn't going to drill, ha

Ludwig still sells the p85 that has the same bolt pattern. They also sell the p86 strainer that fits as well. The p85's are very inexpensive.

Mike

Yes, you'd have to be crazy to drill, but sadly there are people that do it.

"Ludwig still sells the p85 that has the same bolt pattern. They also sell the p86 strainer that fits as well. The p85's are very inexpensive."

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The R4-L came up locally at a good price & I was familiar with it on some of my other snares. I was leaning towards a P-86

go for the p83. Simple, stylish, slim, classic! And they just work! They don't back off as much as the p85. Also, the p85 is in my own opinion a bit of an eyesore and feels like a cheap strainer, similar in quality to some MIJ strainers.