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65 Slingerland Krupa Deluxe 1N question Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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From Dan Boucher

It runs the full course from the policing story, that leedybdp writes about above, all the way to idiots like me who say, "If they look lousy fix them so they'll look nice." I might acknowledge an exception for some piece of vintage gear that is highly unusual and/or very historical. Example: You own Joe Morello's silver sparkle Ludwig kit from 1964. In that case, I'd leave it as is. Fact is, doing or not doing it on a mid-sixties Slingerland 20,13,16 kit should not affect the final value one way or the other. Doing a good job on them is the main thing and then acknowledge that when you sell them.

I'm in your group of "idiots". I want my vintage drums to look original at a glance. I don't obsess about tension rods--except for the handles on bass drum T's. I learned that most black bass drum hoops were painted with a semi gloss paint rather than high gloss. So, that's what I spray them with. I'm not fond of metal bass drum hoops as replacements for original wood hoops.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 11 years ago
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I think that repainted bass hoops aren't a problem for most collectors as long as the job is done right. Unless you're dealing with some holy grail set that should be left alone I think most drummers would prefer nicely refinished hoops to ones that are all chipped up.

The original paint on these would have been lacquer and that is what I use. Lacquer needs to be polished to really shine but the drum makers didn't bother to do that on hoops so new unpolished black lacquer has just the right amount of sheen to it to match the original semi-gloss look...at least the ones I've repainted do.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Well I painted yesterday, and I have to say I'm not too impressed. I did 3 coats of Valspar Black Lacquer spray, from Lowes (the only black lacquer they had). I did a thorough sand job before hand. It has this sort of speckled/grainy look, definitely looks like some dude just spray painted it in his front yard, not like it came out of a factory. The factory paint was smooth and shiny and didnt have that spray paint look. I tried to polish it a little bit, but the paint is just coming off on the rag! This is after drying for 24 hours. I'm not really sure what to do here now...

Maybe 3 coats wasn't enough? There are some spots where it looks a little smoother/shinier where maybe the paint was applied a little thicker? I'm concerned that this paint didn't dry hard, it instead has a gummy feel, and I can easily make an indention with light pressure of a fingernail. EDIT: I did a little research and found that some people find it takes several days for black lacquer to cure completely.

1965 Slingerland Gene Krupa Deluxe 1N
1966 Ludwig Downbeat
1966 Ludwig Super Classic
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hmmm, Not sure what the problem would be other than perhaps that brand of paint has a quirk. I've done it several times with black lacquer from a spray can (I think it was just the hardware store "house brand") with great results. Lacquer actually is supposed to dry very quickly but it does take it a while for it to cure to full hardness. There is some technique to using spray cans but it's not that hard.

One thing that might be the problem. You can't spray lacquer over top of enamel paint as it will eat into it. You can go the other way (enamel over lacquer) but lacquer will react with enamel just like you were spraying lacquer thinner onto it. This has never been a problem in my experience as the original factory finish is lacquer and you can spray lacquer over lacquer (actually the new coat will dissolve the old coat a bit but then they meld together into one). If there is enamel on the hoops that might have led to your troubles. Ludwig used lacquer but I'm not 100% sure that Slingerland did.

Worst case scenario sand them down smooth and try a semi-gloss enamel or sand them down to bare wood and try the lacquer again. I apologize if I steered you down the wrong path but black lacquer has always worked very well for me on bass drum hoops.

Posted on 11 years ago
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You definitly didn't steer me wrong K.O., black lacquer seems to be the general recommendation. I'm gonna wait till the paint cures fully, then sand it a little bit and apply a few more coats, maybe with a different brand lacquer. If it still has that flat/grainy look then I'll just have to go the enamel route.

1965 Slingerland Gene Krupa Deluxe 1N
1966 Ludwig Downbeat
1966 Ludwig Super Classic
Posted on 11 years ago
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