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70s Ludwig Supra Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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After reseraching more on the Internet, I have learned that Ludwig made some COB Supraphonics in the 70s. They said that the shells are stamped with a "B" or "BR" and that the B/O badge is referred to as the cutoff badge, because it has the serial number cutoff the botttom.

My question is have any of you owned or heard both of these drums and are the older preserial 60s better sounding than the 70s? It seems to me that it maybe easier for me to locate a 70s model and because it's not the vintage years buy one a little cheaper. But after that being said I don't want to buy an inferior sounding drum. I would rather get it right the first time.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Todays metal snare drums are often identified by a full and resonant sound - this was heralded by the ludwig 400 ludaloy shell. Every other drum was an indirect copy. Even Leedy flatly refused to make a metal snare for years....The mid 60's - late 70's 400 is what are all used to hearing, the pre serial COB 59-61 drum isnt particulary resonant, as its a two piece brass shell welded together. These drums were / are revered in the drum world but in reality arent all that great sounding - in my opinion. No modern manufacturer (including Ludwig) would make a two piece metal shell now, not after the huge success of the 400. Hope this helps you with your selection, and i standy to be shot down by other forum members:)

Posted on 13 years ago
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From bigz

Todays metal snare drums are often identified by a full and resonant sound - this was heralded by the ludwig 400 ludaloy shell. Every other drum was an indirect copy. Even Leedy flatly refused to make a metal snare for years....The mid 60's - late 70's 400 is what are all used to hearing, the pre serial COB 59-61 drum isnt particulary resonant, as its a two piece brass shell welded together. These drums were / are revered in the drum world but in reality arent all that great sounding - in my opinion. No modern manufacturer (including Ludwig) would make a two piece metal shell now, not after the huge success of the 400. Hope this helps you with your selection, and i standy to be shot down by other forum members:)

BANG BANG Bigz! Your opinion is highly respected.IMO the Supra's are the best. I have a couple of Radio Kings but IMO they dont sound as good as everyone raves that they do. I reckon you & I need to go get a double headstone now:)

Posted on 13 years ago
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From bigz

Todays metal snare drums are often identified by a full and resonant sound - this was heralded by the ludwig 400 ludaloy shell. Every other drum was an indirect copy. Even Leedy flatly refused to make a metal snare for years....The mid 60's - late 70's 400 is what are all used to hearing, the pre serial COB 59-61 drum isnt particulary resonant, as its a two piece brass shell welded together. These drums were / are revered in the drum world but in reality arent all that great sounding - in my opinion. No modern manufacturer (including Ludwig) would make a two piece metal shell now, not after the huge success of the 400. Hope this helps you with your selection, and i standy to be shot down by other forum members:)

I'd say that's about as on-the-mark as you could get! Agree100%

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Posted on 13 years ago
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