for those of us looking for the bass drum spurs for our vintage luddy bass drums there is a quick fix that i came up with. i didn't have the funds to get the original spurs and i'm still going to get them but in the meantime here's what i did. i took the spur mounts off of the bass drum and replaced them with the tom mounts on my 13 and 14 inch toms (i;m not using the 13 and the 14 is mounted on a snare stand) i then used the legs from one of those conversion kits (i think its called a jungle kit conversion)that takes a 16 inch ft and converts it to a bass drum and it worked like a charm. i already had the conversion kit but it typically runs about 30-40 bucks at any music store. just might buy ya some time till you can get the real thing. hope this helps someone.