thinking on,didnt they do a tama snare with that strange pattern on them?
Yep, they did. A buddy of mine had one with that pattern on it. I don't recall if it was inlay or a decal. The snare sounded nice though. I don't think it had anything mentioning Camco on it. I remember it being badged as a Tama 'something' - star snare.
Oh ok. Just read this at Wikipedia:In 1977, Drum Workshop (DW) and Hoshino Gakki (the parent company of Tama Drums) jointly purchased Camco's assets. DW would receive Camco's inventory and manufacturing equipment, while Tama would receive the Camco name, the original design blueprints, and engineering rights.This explains the nearly the same but slightly different lug design plus the reference to the Hoshino badge. Still no clue where the shell were made.
Lots of speculation here on my part, but... This seems unusual, because some of those Tama/Camco drums are clearly Camco shells with re-rings (like the Elvin kit at Maxwell's) - they even have the old badges. Odd that DW ended up with the rights to (and presumably the stock of) the lugs, while Tama clearly got the stock of shells?
Interesting too that shortly after the acquisition, Tama put re-rings in the Superstars... maybe using the "blueprints" for their own high end line, and relegating Camco to "lesser" status, and then a non-entity all together... though the rings in the Superstars didn't last long anyway.
None of this solves where the later TAMCO shells came from - but it would seem either Keller or Tama, both of which are ultimately nice shells!
im now convinced these are tama shells,how about the bearing edges? they are quite unique on the superstars
I was with DW during the early days and have emailed Don Lombardi with the shell question. Hopefully he has some recollections from over 30 years ago. In the mean time here's a shot of the edges and inlay or stenciled stain. Looks like inlay. Thanks for all the responses.
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OK...18/12/14's, Tama hardware, Camco badge, inlaid 6 ply maple Japanese shells, made (assembled perhaps) in the USA, , endorsed by Elvin, made as is for a very short period, one year, maybe two, and not collectible as Camcos. Am I missing anything. They do sound warm, resonant and have pretty wide tuning range though.
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They may not be as valuble as a nice Oak Lawn kit. But they sure look pretty. The sizes are perfect too. Looks like a great kit either way.
I was with DW during the early days and have emailed Don Lombardi with the shell question. Hopefully he has some recollections from over 30 years ago. In the mean time here's a shot of the edges and inlay or stenciled stain. Looks like inlay. Thanks for all the responses.[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/agopsalott/-8-3.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/agopsalott/-6-4.jpg[/IMG]
I have to jump in on this.Sometime ago i got a set for 80.00 it's a 8x12,9x13,16x16,14x22....In red cherry stain-shells are stain both on the out side and inside.The lugs are the Camco/Tama rounded ones like yours and same shell but the badges are Tama Royalstar,The only set i have even seen..I have seen a few sets one a friend has a Camco/Tama with the lugs like yours and my set.I have also seen the box looking lug on Camco/Tama sets too they seem to show up on C/L from time to time...If anyone would email me i will email photos of the set i have so it could be posted...Mikey
I have a set of concert toms (6"&8") that have the same finish. I have broken 2 lugs on these drums. I have never broken a lug on any other drum so be careful. I also have a Camco Oaklawn bop kit that are the same sizes as yours in green sparkle. The Oaklawns are entirely different from the Tama Camcos. If yours are made with Camco shells, they would be L.A. Camco shells, which are different from the Oaklawns. Yours do look great, but be careful of the lugs.
Let me know if you need any of these round Tama/Camco lugs iam doing a deal for some of them...I will know in a few days if i got the deal...Mikey
Lots of speculation here on my part, but... This seems unusual, because some of those Tama/Camco drums are clearly Camco shells with re-rings (like the Elvin kit at Maxwell's) - they even have the old badges. Odd that DW ended up with the rights to (and presumably the stock of) the lugs, while Tama clearly got the stock of shells?Interesting too that shortly after the acquisition, Tama put re-rings in the Superstars... maybe using the "blueprints" for their own high end line, and relegating Camco to "lesser" status, and then a non-entity all together... though the rings in the Superstars didn't last long anyway.None of this solves where the later TAMCO shells came from - but it would seem either Keller or Tama, both of which are ultimately nice shells!
From what I've heard Camco L.A. had a warehouse in PA. This is the same warehouse that Tama took over when they purchased the Camco name and half the rights to the 5000 pedal. Most likely it was this warehouse that supplied them with the Keller made shells and the right to use the Made In USA on the badge.
I have to jump in on this.Sometime ago i got a set for 80.00 it's a 8x12,9x13,16x16,14x22....In red cherry stain-shells are stain both on the out side and inside.The lugs are the Camco/Tama rounded ones like yours and same shell but the badges are Tama Royalstar,The only set i have even seen..I have seen a few sets one a friend has a Camco/Tama with the lugs like yours and my set.I have also seen the box looking lug on Camco/Tama sets too they seem to show up on C/L from time to time...If anyone would email me i will email photos of the set i have so it could be posted...Mikey
These are the other lugs that you would also fine on Camco/Tama drums..It's my understanding that the drums with the rounded lugs came first,then Tama change the lugs to these...Mikey
