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Did You Grow Up In A Mom & Pop Music Store? Last viewed: 7 minutes ago

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Hi All,

There is a thread going about how impersonal and off-putting it can be to visit a music store these days. It made me think of a music store I frequented as I was growing up in New York city. It was called Bath Music, on Bath Ave. in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Bath Music was literally a 'mom & pop' music store. Phil and Mary the owners of Bath music were known as, mom & pop. Once you got to know Mary, she would actually be offended if you didn't call her momma. Mary had a small kitchen and dining table in the back of the store. If it was lunch, or dinner time, the smells of home cooked Italian food was streaming out of the back of the store, and if you were lucky enough to be one of Phil & Mary's 'kids' (the steady customers that grew up in that store were their 'kids,') you'd get invited to break bread with them. In the winter there was always a pot of hot coffee going and you could relax, warm up with some of Mary's coffee and shoot the sh*t with Phil about the new equipment that came in during the week. He knew us all personally and well. When you walked in, if you were a Gretsch, or a Slingerland guy he'd already have something waiting, set-aside -just for you- because he knew you'd want first crack at it. That's the kind of music store I grew up in. A place where they knew my name, and what kind of stuff I was into without having to ask.

When I opened my own 'mom & pop' style music store in 89' it was Phil & Mary that helped me to get started. Phil had been a Gibson dealer since the 40's and he let me piggy-back guitar orders for my store onto his. He wouldn't ever take a dime from me for doing it either. I was getting stuff at his wholesale prices! I offered more than a hundred times to kick something back to him and he wouldn't hear of it. "I made my money off of you the last 25 years!" he'd tell me and then he'd laugh out loud. The day I closed my business, six years later, I looked out of my storefront window on the day of the public auction and I saw Phil standing on the sidewalk out front crying.They're long gone now and so is that kind of music store experience, I'm afraid. I'm sure there are still one, or two old-school music stores around, but they are a thing of the past for the most part. A shame too, it's another piece of americana, our culture, that is gone except for memory.

John

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Posted on 10 years ago
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That experience sounds so distant culturally it may as well be a fairytale story.

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Great story John! Thanks for sharing it!

When I was getting into playing drums at the age of 11, the closest non-corporate owned store was H&H Music which was located in the south most part of Houston, TX on I-45. I used to go in there and window shop, but never had much money to buy anything but sticks or mallets for school. That store was around for years and years but has been closed for sometime now. There was a place in Galveston called Island Music, but I didnt make it down there much.

Now we have a few local Guitar Center's in the area...

The best local music store still living is Rockin' Robins in Houston. They are a privately owned business and have been there for a really long time. Great musicians pass through there regularly (Billy Gibbons was in there a few weeks ago)... they deal new, used, and vintage guitars, drums, amps and accesories. Check them out online if ya feel like it: www.rockinrobinguitars.com/index.aspx

I wish I had a good story like your's!!

-Justin

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From poppies

That experience sounds so distant culturally it may as well be a fairytale story.

It was not just my experience. It was the same for a lot of musicians that grew up in large cities/urban areas. There is always a few of these scattered around, owner operated small businesses. I'm hoping somebody else from the Brooklyn area (and the era) chimes in. Bath Music was a very special place. I was 12 years old when I started playing and for 40 something years I visited that store regularly.

Click this link and scroll to the bottom of the page... some history on Bath Music: Johnny Castellano is Phil & Mary's son.

http://www.castellanoshouseofmusic.com/

John

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http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 10 years ago
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thanks for sharing that story john. I love hearing stories like this. it saddens me that so much of this is gone nowadays. I love when I get old drums that have music store decals on them or even heads with the same. kinda takes me back there.

I didn't drum when I was younger. played trombone in a jazz band and for the local theatres and other venues. when I was playing the brass, there was one old store like you mentioned in the next town over. they seemed to have it all too. not sure what happened to them. probably same fate as the rest I guess.

mike

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I have two non-corporate owner operated drum shops within driving range and I always do everything I can to support their businesses. I bought 3 kits over the years from one and both my daughters take lessons there. The other place specializes in vintage stuff which I usually can't afford but I've gotten my best cymbals from him. He also gives me shells with buggered up edges to fix which I do for free. I just can't stand the idea of only having a Guitar Center to go to.

Steve

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Ahhh... the good old days and a great thread John.I`m about your age so i can relate to what you`re referring to here but i didn`t grow up in a large city and i came from a small town of 3,600 folks up here in Canada.My hometown didn`t have a music store at that time so i`d go to Stratford a larger city of 20,000 and 12 miles away, to there so called"Mom&Pop" music store.It was a very small store and you had to order almost everything as there was very little stock on hand.But it was a real thrill for a 14 yr, old kid to just even be in one of these places that had even one or two drum sets,neither which were of very good quality.Walter Beisel`s music store was it`s name and a Mom&Pop style store that will remain in my roots of drumming forever.Thanks for starting this thread John-great stuff!

Wayne

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Thanks John, great story.

I had Jack's Sports and Music on Vermont Ave. south of Manchester in LA.

Got sticks and heads there.

Drooled over the MIJ sets he had there.

Nice guy. Hard edge neighborhood at the time.

We still have pro drum here in LA.

Bought my first real kit there in 1972.

Those were good times.

sa

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Maybe I needed to elaborate a little more about the role music stores played in the lives of young musicians like myself. In the 60's in N.Y. music stores were the central hubs for communities of local musicians. The first thing I'd check out was the bulletin board to see which bands were looking for players, or to find out which players were looking for bands. A couple of local clubs and bars advertised events on the board and it was a source of possible paying gigs. You met other musicians there, you heard about who was who on the local music scene and it opened doors along with many opportunities to play.

The way it worked was, if one of the guys heard about a gig opportunity, he'd call together whatever players were needed to fill the bill music wise. It was a small, close-knit community of players and at one time or another, we all worked with each other on one gig or another. The music store was one way to get news about what some of the guys were doing and where gig opportunities were available. The store was a hub for us.

We didn't have the Internet... all we had was our local mom & pop music stores. I would visit and shop at places like Manny's and all the other large stores on 48th St. in Manhattan, but Bath Music, Phil & Mary Castellano's store was always my 'home base.'

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
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There were a few small music stores where I grew up. My old bass player (female type) worked there and I was chasing her for years. Anyway I enjoyed my time hanging out at a few and most were very into the local music scene. I believe the last one that I used to hang out at closed down a few years back.

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