You all realize price is fictitious thing as it wil only bare the current market , and always the rare stuff will be very pricy and what they see is that side of the coin not the dead end drums only maybe good enough for a players kit , but on that note it's getting harder and harder to find African music grade mahagony drums , 65 and back in any brand , there is a point to were that Priceline will eventually become tomorrow's realty may be not in my lifetime but some day theses current prices we see will be a bargain , I'm just saying gary

Interesting thread and great stories of days gone by !!

I don't have the time to fool with folks with Mars orbit pricing. When a kit has gone from x to y after a few weeks will send an offer for the true value. Funny some will sell others still seek the brass ring.

Creighton

I deal with it all the time. And those are the folks who will never sell the drums. So I will find it somewhere else & I usually do. My favorite was a local knob here in town who had a Galaxy Club Date on CL for 4K. I offered him 2500 for it & he said I was trying to rip him off. Yeah ok. Guess what? I found one anyway & from a much cooler dude.

I just don't get why people ***** about pricing or try to "educate" sellers. If you don't want it at THEIR price or can't negotiate the price you are willing to pay just move on. It's really that simple.

Ah yes... The price police.... Life is too short to be preoccupied with stepping on someone's listing or auction. People have the right to ask whatever they want for an item. If they really want to sell it, they will eventually find the right price. If you are interested in an item, you can always make an offer. If you can't come to terms and an item is too expensive just walk on by. There will be another on down the road.

I'm not referring to the knowledgable collector who has placed a premium on his or her drums. I'm referring to the average Joe who HOPES his Ludwig kit is worth $2000 when we all know from experience that a 1977 four piece in white cortex might fetch $600 on a good day.

The point I see being made here Is that the market (do mainly to us here ) has been saturated with high expectations and unrealistic prices for inferior quality drums and they will sit at those prices because some of us as resellers , have to buy low sell high to make a living at this ...and while slim Pickens that illussive downbeat in a great color not butchered is really high priced and so unattainable to us and I agree as early on those sellers are not asking for a appraisal on what there value is and no one has the right to sensor there adds by telling them what they should sell for !

Interesting thread. As a sometimes seller I come across 2 types of buyers: the re-sellers and the typical players.

I price items at a price at which I wouldn't mind selling. Otherwise I'd rather keep the items and use them.

In my opinion it's a bit assholish and arrogant to think you need to educate a seller on his price.

If I'm making a low-ball offer I'll explain that it's what I can afford to pay. If they say no, I thank them, wish them luck and ask them to contact me if they re-consider.

I am not referring to sellers who have high prices based on arrogance or a lack of urgency. I am referring to a seller who has a high price based on ignorance. Since we are pretty knowledgeable on this forum, I bet we all have an example of bursting someone's bubble on a kit they thought was worth two or three times what the market would bare. I am not some ******* who gets a kick out of calling people to lecture them on drum pricing. Here is another example. I bought a WMP Slingerland kit off of local Craiglist four or five years ago. The ad had two very blurry pictures of what appeared to be a four piece mid 70's kit. From what I could tell, the bottom rims on all of the drums were missing as well as the resonant bass drum hoop. I am a sucker for wmp drums so I inquired. After a very pleasant conversation it was apparent that the seller did not know the first things about drums and this was a kit his older brother had that simply got left behind. We had a great conversation and I explained my interest in the kit if he ever lowered the price to $500. He said he wanted to think about it and would let the ad run for a week or so. Right on cue I got a call from him a week later and he wanted to sell. He had talked to several other people like me (some nice, some who were *******s) and since I was the first to call him, he sold them to me.

Understood. I was thinking of a recent experience I had with a potential buyer on ebay who offered 60% of the asking price for a floor tom I was selling. I thanked him for the offer and explained that the price was set as such because I would keep the tom and build a player's kit around it if it didn't sell at my asking price.

Through 3 or 4 subsequent emails from him, he explains that he is a serious collector and has over 300 drums; and that my drum wasn't priced correctly. At that point I wouldn't have sold to him at twice the asking price. The guy is probably a member of this forum. I sold the tom later that day for 90% of the asking price.