I. Think if it wasn't for ringo slingys would be equal to the bunch as far as Gretch super build quality makes these old tubs in demand
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66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
I would add that Gretsch, in particular, have a consistent shell construction throughout the classic era. Less variation in the construction means more consistent tone so therefore you know what you are getting. Also their overall build quality is high and they are durable. That being said, I play my slingerland 5-ply more than my gretsch RB. I've had them longer and can use them in more situations because I understand how to get a variety of tones out of them. On the other hand when I want that Gretsch sound (and I have a specific idea of what that is!), the only set that can deliver is the RB's.
I don't buy it when someone says Gretsch or Camcos sound "better" than other kits from the same era. I've owned them all at one time or another and I think they all sound great, maybe different, but not better.
I agree with that completely. We all have that special sound we like, but one sound is not "better" than another. So why such a disparity in prices between all the fine vintage American drums? I think the pricing anomaly you raise is still based upon shear numbers; supply and demand. Ludwigs and Slingerlands flowed off the assembly line. Not so true regarding Gretsch and Rogers, and certainly not with Camco's.
Certain makes/models just seem to get a cult following because of uniqueness or rarity (Vistalites, Trixon Speedfires, Jazzfests, etc) and their popularity has nothing to do with any pretentions of a "better" sound. I'm a card-carrying member of the Rogers cult, and I'm willing to pay the premium prices placed on Rogers drums. Do I think Rogers are superior to Ludwigs and Slingy's, no, not necessarily. I just like 'em better. My first brand new set was a Rogers, and I'm just loyal to my first love.
So to address your initial question, let's just go right to the source and ask the Gretsch and Camco guys: What's so special about your brand that you're willing to pay those premium prices?
Mike
I'm not complaining that Slingerlands are the best value on the planet. Durable, great sound and a bunch of cool odd finishes in the 1970s too (denim, leather...). I got a near pristine one owner kit 22/16/13 for little over $400. On Ebay too. Bidding open to the world. Go figure.
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