I used my Sonor Safari kit at our second weekend gig at a place called Dick's Last Resort on the river walk in San Antonio. Now, if anyone has ever been on the river walk and popped into Dick's on a Saturday night, you know how noisy and crazy it can get in there and this is not a small place. After our first set, the guitarist said the manager had complaints that the drums were too loud, I said what? This tiny kit is too loud for this noisy place? I had one mic on the 16" kick, that's it. I thought he was joking, but he said I need to tone it down or we may not get hired there again. I can only assume it was the new Ludwig snare or cymbals that was causing the problem, so I held back on them a bit. We received a $100 bill tip in the second set, so either the manager was full of crap, or it was a cranky old couple who thought they were at a Holiday Inn lounge.
Drums Too Loud Last viewed: 3 hours ago
Mark my Sonor Bop kit. It has the 18" bass drum for a little kit is has a good amount of horse power, The weak link is the snare drum rims, I replaced them with 2.3mm steel rims man this is a smoking snare drum now. Glad all worked out for you guy's
Ya, this kit has plenty of punch, but Dick's is a fairly big venue with a lot of noisy people, not to mention I was right next to the guitarist with a loud amp. I just couldn't imagine how the drums could had been that loud, I certainly wasn't playing like I was in a rock concert.DOH
I never have played a 16" BD... But my 18" due to its higher pitch was more noticeable out front in certain rooms.. particularly miked up... (bands too loud... blame the drummer)..
Cheers
John
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
You would be better off asking another musician who was out front, or possibly even the sound man if he is a regular in that duty. I have had experiences lately where the bass drum was too aggressive in the overall mix, even though it was only a 20" and used previously without any changes to the drum itself. Somewhere in the board, the setting was producing a good deal of ring. With a bit of work, it was mitigated after it was noticed by the lead guitarist of a companion band with whom we shared the gig. He was out front and advised there was something wrong with the bass sound. So they addressed it and it was fine afterwards. In that case there was a bass mic facing the resonant head, a snare/hats mike and one overhead. Everything else was fine.
Ah a classic. The first set the crowd are still chatting having the first few rounds. The second set and the booze is taking effect, more beers on top and they don't give a rats behind, now they're into it.
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
I've found that venues that are long and narrow with tall ceilings tend tend to be real loud. Only thing you can do is have the whole band keep the volume down the first set. In your case the whole band was probably too loud but guitar players always want to blame the drummer. When they do that to me I just pull out my brushes and then when the complaints continue they have to look at each other and decide what they are going to do.
I play on my Ludwigs at church! 10x14,16x16,16x18,14x26 plus 6,5 Black Beauty and all vintage 602's…Sometimes I use my Gretsch or my Slingerlands (same sizes!)…It was funny last Sunday because the singer said people was complaining about the volume and then the pastor (a lovely older lady) hugged me and she said" "No! I love this guy's playing! just play as loud as you want!!!!" I couldn't help but tell the story here!
Cause you got the bug dont'cha?
https://www.facebook.com/VintageDrumBug
https://twitter.com/VintageDrumBug
I play on my Ludwigs at church! 10x14,16x16,16x18,14x26 plus 6,5 Black Beauty and all vintage 602's…Sometimes I use my Gretsch or my Slingerlands (same sizes!)…It was funny last Sunday because the singer said people was complaining about the volume and then the pastor (a lovely older lady) hugged me and she said" "No! I love this guy's playing! just play as loud as you want!!!!" I couldn't help but tell the story here!
How cool is that?
60's Ludwig Downbeat Silver Spark
70's Ludwig Super Classic White Marine
60's Gretsch RB Champaigne Spark
70's Rogers Big R Black
90's Sonor Hilite (Red maple)
00's DW Collectors Broken Glass
00's DW Jazz Series Tangerine Glass
10's DW Collectors (Acrylic) Matt Black Wrap
10's PDP Concept Wood Hoop kit (Maple)
Proud ambassador of the British Drum Company
You would be better off asking another musician who was out front, or possibly even the sound man if he is a regular in that duty. I have had experiences lately where the bass drum was too aggressive in the overall mix, even though it was only a 20" and used previously without any changes to the drum itself. Somewhere in the board, the setting was producing a good deal of ring. With a bit of work, it was mitigated after it was noticed by the lead guitarist of a companion band with whom we shared the gig. He was out front and advised there was something wrong with the bass sound. So they addressed it and it was fine afterwards. In that case there was a bass mic facing the resonant head, a snare/hats mike and one overhead. Everything else was fine.
We used the house pa which has a small board on the stage, there was no soundman. Dick's is right on the river walk and is a hot spot for tourist, people don't come there to see a band, they come there to eat and drink. The band is just background music.
- Share
- Report