We don't have in-ears. I was only using two condenser mics and the only other mics were for the vocals. I think next time, I 'm going to set up in front of the drum riser. I believe that was the culprit, a hollow riser up too high.
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The one thing about a hollow riser is they often turn into bass traps where one particular frequency is overly responsive. Otherwise you are no longer coupled to the floor so that can pose other problems such as losing low end. Outdoors in general will do that.
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Mark, simple solution... 'in-ears!' Just have the mix that's going out to the audience played into your headset. Easy fix.I played a circus tent one time and I couldn't hear the band! The amplifiers and PA were all out in front of the drum riser and below me. When I counted off the first number I thought nobody had started playing because I couldn't hear a sound from where I was sitting. It was like I was playing by myself. The guys in the band immediately turned around and gave me looks that silently screamed, -'WTF are you doing?' It was a train-wreck and a half. We had to stop playing because we were getting boo'ed off stage. When we got backstage the lead singer wanted to assault me. Lucky we were working split-sets with another band, so when it was our turn again, we took my drums off the riser and set the drums up on the floor in-between the bass and rhythm guitar amps. I was fine for the rest of the night and we won the crowd back. They boo'ed at first when we came back on stage. You had to see the other drummers face when he came off stage the first time. The cat looked shell-shocked! I knew he had a rough set and I couldn't figure out how he got through it. He thanked me for moving the drums after our set. Sh*t happens, you just have to be ready for it or at least be able to adapt quickly.John
Aaargh thats a hell of a story. I can't believe they boo'ed you off! WOW
As you say in ears are life savers, and they help to keep your hearing too. But thats ok when the band has an infrastructure big enough to deal with it. When your doing a blues gig in the back room of a bar for £50 theres not much you can do.
I guess its also down to the caliber of the guy's your playing with too. Wether they know how to adapt, after all it's a team effort.
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> I can't believe they boo'ed you off! WOW
Boo'ed us off and then they boo'ed when we came back out 15 minutes after the train wreck. It was a 'debutant ball' where all the 16 year-old society girls were having their coming out party. The gig was in Atlanta, Georgia 1967 they flew us down there from NY to do the gig. There were over 2000 attendees, all were the 'cream' of southern high society. The train wreck had nothing to do with the caliber of the musicians, the band was composed of N.Y. studio session players. (Ben-Gor Studios) It was all my fault because I couldn't hear the band from where I was sitting. Scott is correct, it had to be the riser that caused the problem. I was on a 5' foot high drum riser that was really shaky to begin with. All the amps and PA were in front of and below me facing away. It was like I was playing alone. Scary, very scary and I felt like pure sh*t for having spoiled the first number. Like I said, we won them back once we had a chance to actually play for them. We played Chuck Berry's, Nadine when we came back out and the dance floor filled. It was -such a tremendous relief- to see the kids up and dancing instead of boo'ing! The rest of the gig went great, they loved us.
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Easy fix when the room sounds bad. A shot and a beer Keep on Pl
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