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Good deal on a Gretsch snare or not? Last viewed: 2 minutes ago

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Gretsch Round Badge Snare WMP Vintage 1950's 14"x 5" Very Clean No Reserve; eBay item number:332360326808

I was the only bid so that makes me skeptical but it says that it comes with a case and stand so what the heck right?

Sorry the link on eBay isn't working. Is this a Student or Dixieland model? Thanks as always.

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70s Ludwig Standard Aqua Mist
60s Ludwig Champagne Sparkle Downbeat
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Posted on 7 years ago
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Can you please post a pic and a price?

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I'd say you did alright at $138. That's a Gretsch Dixieland model. Six lugs, single flange hoops, and the Renown throw off. Same shell as any other Gretsch drum of the era. Later versions of this model had the die-cast hoops in place of the single flange ones and that was a definite improvement. My guess is that if this drum had the die-casts it would have sold for at least twice as much as you paid. Worth seeking out those hoops if you can find them. Still, this drum is worth more than you paid for it as parts (badge,lugs, shell, throw off). I don't mean that you should part it out by any means, just that there is value there.

I have that exact same drum in the same WMP and they can sound great. I found a set of die casts for mine and for a while it was my main gigging snare. The Renown throw can be a bit wonky if it is worn but can usually be repaired to work okay.

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Thanks K.O.

70s Slingy WMP
70s Ludwig Standard Aqua Mist
60s Ludwig Champagne Sparkle Downbeat
and a whole bunch of snares and hardware
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The six hole die casts can be tough to find, particularly the snare side, but it would probably be worth it to replace those original hoops (keep them of course) with even a cheap set of triple flange hoops. Every one of these I've seen with the single flange hoops, including the one I own, the hoops were pretty bent up. You could probably get a set of six hole hoops from Cannon for less than $30 and, while they wouldn't be "factory correct" ,they would definitely make the drum more playable.

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i just happen to have a pair of 6 hole die casts that came on a Ludwig Pioneer I bought a few years back so I'll "slap" 'em on when I get it, thanks again!

70s Slingy WMP
70s Ludwig Standard Aqua Mist
60s Ludwig Champagne Sparkle Downbeat
and a whole bunch of snares and hardware
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From cnw20

i just happen to have a pair of 6 hole die casts that came on a Ludwig Pioneer I bought a few years back so I'll "slap" 'em on when I get it, thanks again!

Wow that's a stroke of luck!

Most likely they are Gretsch hoops as I don't know of too many others using die-casts on six lug drums.

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Cnw

I saw this auction on the bay and almost went for it. You got a fantastic deal ! I love the vintage round badge Gretsch snares. They look great and have a fantastic sound. The one you got is in great shape. I decided on buying a 1930's Duplex Spirit of St Louis in BDP. I have been wanting one for my collection for a long time and this one I couldn't pass on.

Here's a picture to share and will post more once I get it.

Enjoy the drum, you did great !

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No Guru - I just love collecting & learning about vintage drums!

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63 Walberg & Auge Sea Blue Agave Green Pearl
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Thanks and it looks like you did too.

I'll let you know if the case and stand that comes with it are part of the original package that I hope they are.

70s Slingy WMP
70s Ludwig Standard Aqua Mist
60s Ludwig Champagne Sparkle Downbeat
and a whole bunch of snares and hardware
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Just got it and it's a beauty, the pics probably don't do it justice.

It came in a sturdy cardboard case with sticks, stand and a drum key so it appears to be a student kit.

Bottom bearing edges are tapered on each side where snares attach and all bearings edges are pristine.

No inside tag so it must be pre-1962?

70s Slingy WMP
70s Ludwig Standard Aqua Mist
60s Ludwig Champagne Sparkle Downbeat
and a whole bunch of snares and hardware
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