Pete, the info that was given to you on the DFO is correct, it's a Wfl supreme concert model the Pioneer name is for ludwig but the same drum essentially, with the drum,case,sticks and stand at least $250.00 the sticks look to be 60's ludwigs

Thank you!

Here it is after some soap and water (not on the shell though!)

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beautiful pioneer. the difference between a pioneer and the more desirable jazz fest is that the jazz fest is an 8 lug. id say 250 is a good quote

Thanks for the comments

Hey Pete, man you did a good job and a correct one I might add! You got a real time capsule here, original drums, snare wires calf heads or head, case, stands and sticks, what's writing on the sticks? have you played it yet, maybe telling what you already know pioneers sound better not tensioned up high, more a medium tuning, then they are in their element!

Haven't played it yet...no markings on the sticks that I can see. The stand is in great shape! All moving parts are smooth, even the rubber feet are intact.

well done on the rehab. looks real good. i took the original calf off of my snare side because the calf batter was torn. thinking i might wanna slip mine back on and try it.

those era stands are my favorite. almost all of my wfl/ludwig stands have those style feet. they just look right to me. plus, they match my wfl 1121 hi hat feet too.

mike

Those 50s shells with mahogany interiors and nice bearing edges on the WFL/Ludwig pioneer snare drums creates a better-sounding snare drum by far than the 60s era Jazz Festivals, even though they only have 6 lugs versus the 8 on the Jazz Fest snares. Both are great drums though.