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Help with new Ludwig Bass Drum Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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Hello

I am need some help with some information on a (1965 gold keystone 216xxx) 20" Ludwig Bass Drum I recently picked up.

What model? Downbeat? then what's up with the tom mount(s)?

Did the Hollywood kit come with a 20" sometimes?

What wrap finish? Blue Oyster Pearl? Then why is it greenish?

Here are some pics for your amusement.

Any info about the holes next to the tom mount and what they might have been for, confirmation of the wrap style, and any other info like what kit this originally came in etc. would be of great help.

Oh yeah, it is missing both legs, one claw, one lug tension rod, and the wrap on one of the hoops.

Is this a big deal? Easy to replace?

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Posted on 14 years ago
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First off, the 20" bass could have been with any number of kits. The finish is faded Blue Oyster Pearl. Many times, the blue would fade to green. That drum has been butchered, looks like someone put a Pearl type mount on it at one time, then a Ludwig, using a different set of holes. It appears this drum never had the rail mount, therefore could have been a '65 Hollywood as that year it would have been 20-12-12-14. I hope this is not the one you paid 200 for. With the extra holes, it is a player, nothing more. That really sux whoever did that to this drum.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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At least you got some decent looking lugs and such!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Thanks for the responses. No, I paid $130 for this one. $15 for the nice (for it's age) case. Not bad. Like I said before and I'll say it again, nobody will be able to hear what it looks like when mastered, and who really gets that close to a bass drum at a gig to see those holes? A player it is. And don't be a player hater! I really never bond with 10 condition guitars either because I'm too busy thinking about the bloody thing and how not to scratch it instead of putting my mental energy into creating music! Now if you still think it's a bad deal at $130, then it just goes to show how much I know about drums!

So, what year(s) did they make the 20" Hollywood. I have a 1967 Hollwood kit, and this one appears to be one too. Lots of 20" Hollywood kits floating around? The seller had a Ludwig double tom stand for sale as well, and yes, late 1960's Pearl presidential toms. YOU ARE CORRECT SIR! So now these are merely, "SOUND HOLES" didn't it need a few anyway? God I'm a drum newb! Don't worry, I won't be posting many more of these lame messages. I'm not even a drummer, it's just for my studio. Thanks again!!!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Well, you hit the nail on the head.

You are after all, on a Vintage drum forum.

And not being a drummer, all the passionate critique may have caught you unprepared.

Extra holes in drums raise our hackles around here.... none of it is directed at you.... just to the dude that wielded the drill.

The questions you asked are the typical ones asked when doing a restoration..... is that your intention?

There's lots of help about that round these parts......:)

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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Restore? No, just want to get it up and making music ASAP. It looks like I just need a few parts and I'm good to go. I notice a lot of studios have these little guys around. It's all good!

Posted on 14 years ago
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Sometimes, around here, making music is secondary.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From little cyress

Restore? No, just want to get it up and making music ASAP. It looks like I just need a few parts and I'm good to go. I notice a lot of studios have these little guys around. It's all good!

Replace the parts you mentioned, sans the hoop inlay and start thumpin'.

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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From atomicmorganic

Sometimes, around here, making music is secondary.

That's very true. We are sometimes more of a gear-oriented site or possibly a history site pertaining to drums and drumming. Those kinds of topics are more tangibly discussable, after all.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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The extra holes were made by a rogers swivo mount...

Posted on 14 years ago
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