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How vintage drums improved my playing Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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My Chinese-made (ok- non Mikey777 made) OCDP's sounded like dog doo doo. Way too punchy, too much attack, and basically NOTHING like the real OCDP's I've played in the past. And I also feel my playing suffered as a result. I couldn't stomach two hours of wood shedding with those drums.

My barn-fresh Premiers are a revelation. Each thud is more addicting than the last. I couldn't make them sound bad, but it was very easy to make them sound good. I never could make the OCDP's sound better than okay.

But with that addicting sound came better chops. I wanted to play these. I kept playing them. I would become nearly inconsolable when it was time to either go to work or shut it down because of noise compliance laws.

After I was booted from my last band, my confidence sank to an all-time low. But I had decided to work on my playing so I can raise my head high and gig regularly. Changing my drums was a part of the equation. Once my drums were changed, everything else followed. While I don't believe I could sit in for, say our own Bermuda, I am 10,000,000X better because I had drums that drove me to play better. And this is why I say that vintage drums changed and improved my playing.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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There nothing worst playing on a set of drums that sound bad. A kit that sounds bad will limit your practice time and drag your inspiration and motivation to learn new stuff DOWN. After getting my sonor sig's i got so motivated that i tought my self to play rosanna and fool in the rain and other crazy demon shuffles. I seen this happen with my good friend chris with his junk. When he borrowed my 68 gretsch rb. i told him i would never sell that snare so dont get too comfortable with it , the strange kinda of magic it did for him , i just could not say NO. Vintage drums pure INSPIRATION!

80's 13 pc sonor signature
1979 12 pc ludwig power factory
Posted on 13 years ago
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From drums2xs

There nothing worst playing on a set of drums that sound bad. A kit that sounds bad will limit your practice time and drag your inspiration and motivation to learn new stuff DOWN. After getting my sonor sig's i got so motivated that i tought my self to play rosanna and fool in the rain and other crazy demon shuffles. I seen this happen with my good friend chris with his junk. When he borrowed my 68 gretsch rb. i told him i would never sell that snare so dont get too comfortable with it , the strange kinda of magic it did for him , i just could not say NO. Vintage drums pure INSPIRATION!

True dat!!!

Now I have to dissect Thin Lizzy's "Boys Are Back in Town". Not an easy song. Too much cymbal work for my normal playing style...

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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From bunnyman

True dat!!!Now I have to dissect Thin Lizzy's "Boys Are Back in Town". Not an easy song. Too much cymbal work for my normal playing style...

Good one Mr. Coneho. I got to check that song out again.

Heard "Breakdown" by Tom Petty. Lots of details on the kit that I never noticed.

How about "Radar Love" by Golden Earring.

These dudes on these records were really tasty and GOOD.

SA the Green Man

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 13 years ago
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From green glass drum

Good one Mr. Coneho. I got to check that song out again.Heard "Breakdown" by Tom Petty. Lots of details on the kit that I never noticed.How about "Radar Love" by Golden Earring.These dudes on these records were really tasty and GOOD.SA the Green Man

Thank G'd that I don't have to cover everything lick-for-lick; however, the hi-hat work itself is very much characteristic of the song. I am just going to slow down and get it to where I can play it very well, then I speed it up.

"Radar Love" is another one that I am thanking G'd it's not on the bloody list!!!

Tom Petty has always had a great drummer (if he's the same guy through all of the records) who always plays those deceptively simple, yet very complex licks.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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From bunnyman

Thank G'd that I don't have to cover everything lick-for-lick; however, the hi-hat work itself is very much characteristic of the song. I am just going to slow down and get it to where I can play it very well, then I speed it up."Radar Love" is another one that I am thanking G'd it's not on the bloody list!!!Tom Petty has always had a great drummer (if he's the same guy through all of the records) who always plays those deceptively simple, yet very complex licks.

Stan Lynch was the first guy. After he left the band, TP got an opp to play a benefit. He called Stan to see if he would do the gig. Stan said he was too busy. So Tom told one of his people to tell Stan that they would "just get Ringo to do it". After that Stan said he would do it.

Great drummers both.

Green man

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 13 years ago
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I've had the same experience! Also goes for cymbals. Because a good handhammered cymbal just makes more sounds!

Sysl krysu nenahradi!

-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I am not what you would call a great drummer. I can keep a beat and I have fun when I play. That's why I play anyways: to escape life a little bit and have fun.

That being said when I started playing old Slingerland drums, pretty much by accident and just being drawn in by the slight absurdity of a 20 inch floor tom, something clicked in me.

I play much more, I love the sound of the drums and the history of the drums. Its become even more than just about the fun of playing. I have become a much better player because I play more, and I play more because I truly love the drums I play.

1973 Slingerland Phantom 13,16,22
Late 30s Slingerland Radio King- 7x14
SJC Custom Snare Pink Sparkle- 8x14
62 Slingerland COB Radio King- 5x14
Posted on 13 years ago
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i have always made whatever kit i had sound good by whatever means heads ,wires etc,but always and i say always good cymbals are a must have great ones are better yet a good solid base pedal and pad for impact tune ur kit and to play the songs it nice if u know them boys are back has a lot of snare work

with accents on crashes good luck let us know

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks for all the great answers!!! Many of you confirmed my observations.

Yeah- I'm THAT guy!!!

Dead dogs like rusty fire hydrants!!!
Posted on 13 years ago
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