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How's your Supraphonic? Last viewed: 2 hours ago

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If all that changed was the head then he and the eng were lacking. If the only variable is the head and the guy sold the drum after that, how skilled could he really be? Seriously? It's not rocket science.

I don't want to come across as insulting the guy but this makes no sense. If you love the sound of the drum and you change out a head and then don't love the sound - to the point of selling the drum ... that's either lacking skills or a spoiled brat. I would prefer to consider the more mature route. If the head doesn't sound right, you tweak and tension until it does. Or you change heads as it could be a faulty one. But to sell your fave snare because of a head change ... thats just plain silly.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From mcjnic

If all that changed was the head then he and the eng were lacking. If the only variable is the head and the guy sold the drum after that, how skilled could he really be? Seriously? It's not rocket science. I don't want to come across as insulting the guy but this makes no sense. If you love the sound of the drum and you change out a head and then don't love the sound - to the point of selling the drum ... that's either lacking skills or a spoiled brat. I would prefer to consider the more mature route. If the head doesn't sound right, you tweak and tension until it does. Or you change heads as it could be a faulty one. But to sell your fave snare because of a head change ... thats just plain silly.

Heare, Heare!! A new head is always going to sound different than that head that has on the drum for 5 years, it is because the mylar/plastic "seats" to the shell and stretches over time. And if he knew exactly what he did to the head the first time, he should be able to put a new head on, seat it the same way, then tune it to close to the same sound. This is important to replacing heads. Always replace heads the same way, in the same tensioning sequence, and you will keep you drum sounding near the same all the time. It will take years to get the drum to sound like it did, but seating the head correctly, and the same way every time is a key to keeping the sound you liked about the drum when you bought it.:2Cents:

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Posted on 15 years ago
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I have to say that I too had 2 different sounding Supra's.

The one I used to have from the 70's sounded WAY better than my current

Keystone '66 one. And they both had new heads for top and bottom. Wish

I hadn't sold that B/O badged Supra, but I just got a Keystone and automatically figured it would be better since it was from the 60's! DUMB!!

Cool thing is, both were not pitted in the slightest and I am also from the Pacific NW, where it is hardly ever humid. If you want humid try Orlando, FL. LoLoLoLo

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Well Eric, I'll trade you my B/O for your Keystone. I live near you.

Posted on 15 years ago
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heh - No thanks man. My Keystone isn't pitted at all, but your B/O doesn't look to sweet from the pictures. Sold my B/O to that Ludwig Supra CL spammer last summer, still wish I hadn't done that. Gave it away @ $150.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 15 years ago
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I polish all my metal snares and chrome hardware with turtle wax, chrome polish? Do you think that will work? They look great and I really haven't had pitting but I do notice that I need to polish them up a little every now and then. Makes me want to collect more wood drums, less polishing.

1958 Gretsch Kit
1966 Kent Kit
1969 Ludwig Standard Kit
1970 Rogers Power Tone Kit
1970's Ludwig Vistalite Kit
1994 Yamaha Maple Custom
2010 Yamaha Maple Custom
28 assorted snares (including some real crap)
and 1 really nice K Zildjian Istanbul
Posted on 15 years ago
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I've always used a good quality chrome polish on chrome parts, including the shell of my Supra. Everything looks great after more than 40 years. I use metal polish to restore the shine to nickel plated parts.

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 15 years ago
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Some years ago, I stumbled on a Supraphonic in a neighborhood garage sale for $15. It was dirty looking but I suspect played very little. It cleaned up really nice with no pitting. I believe it is late 70s manufacture. It was probably in a dry climate its entire life. I suspect people don't often sell nice ones, just crappy ones. As for sound, it is quite nice, very sensitive. I also have a Gretsch COB 4160 from the late 60s and they sound very similar but the Gretsch excels with the rim shots. There is no substitute for those high, heavy, die cast rims.

Dave

Dave

Posted on 15 years ago
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Are you sure yours isn't COB...it is a pre-serial right?

From GG Vintage

I've always used a good quality chrome polish on chrome parts, including the shell of my Supra. Everything looks great after more than 40 years. I use metal polish to restore the shine to nickel plated parts.


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Posted on 15 years ago
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