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From Purdie Shuffle

> he's rolling and crashing in odd spots, then playing straight 4/4 time through the most complicated parts! Makes -perfect- musical sense. Somebody has to be holding down the groove (stating where the 1 is,) laying down a foundation so that the other guys can take flight and still have it all make sense. The parts where Ringo is playing 'around' the beat, the strong rhythm being cranked out by the guitars, bass and voices holds down the groove. When the band takes flight, Ringo holds down the groove by playing a straight 4/4. The contrast is what makes it sound so good. But 'somebody' has to be holding down the groove. Ringo took a real 'jazz' (thinking outside the box,) approach to his arrangement. Cleaver stuff. "She Said, She Said," is a song that should be mentioned anytime somebody says that Ringo couldn't play. Anyone who can ghost Ringo (note for note) on that one has to be a serious drummer.John

100% Agree with John... Cool1

Entire "Revolver" should be a finding for those who (haughtily, I.M.H.O.) disparage Ringo...

Tomorrow never knows is also a drumming beautiful piece according my visión....


Ludwig '67 Classic B.D.P.
Ludwig '79 Classic Pro-beat
C. A. F. '72 New Sonic "The Argentinean Ludwig"
A bunch of Ludwig snares..... + Dyna & P.Tone.
and always trying to recover some orphan drums!!
Posted on 11 years ago
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Is this the snare drum on the first Beatles LP ? I think yes. I forgot which model though. Looks almost piccolo size.

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"She Said, She Said"!!! Slowly, I turned, step by step.............

The drum opening to that song ALWAYS gives me fits. Can never seem to get it "right".

I never knew the early crash towards the end in "No Reply" was an error. I always thought Ringo creative/clever for placing that right there!

Posted on 11 years ago
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I've never understood that crash to be an error BEC. Seems perfectly placed into what otherwise would have been a moment too void. If it's a mistake, I crestfallen (well, maybe not that bad). Has anyone gone on record to acknowledge that as an error?

Deansdrum59, I hadn't thought about the crashes being choked, but that does seem to be the case. Were they not able to do that at the board in those days?

Here's someone who figured out the She Said She Said:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEdUQdMGG0&list=RDfYEdUQdMGG0"]The Beatles "She Said She Said" Drums Cover - YouTube[/ame]

Posted on 11 years ago
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From vibes

Is this the snare drum on the first Beatles LP ? I think yes. I forgot which model though. Looks almost piccolo size.

That's the Premier 14x4 Royal Ace Mahogany Duroplastic snare, which was used prior to May 12, 1963. For the Thank Your Lucky Stars performance, Ringo practiced with the Premier kit, but that kit was then replaced with the Ludwig kit prior to the actual evening performance. Talk about a crazy move for a drummer! Eye Ball

Here is a partial list of songs that feature the Premier kit noted from the website listed below:

[INDENT]

"I Saw Her Standing There, Please, Please Me, From Me To You, Thank You Girl, Anna, Baby Its You, P.S. I Love You and the incredible single-take recording of Twist and Shout. It was the set he used for seminal stage material like Some Other Guy, Everybodys Trying To Be My Baby, Sure To Fall, Money, Memphis, Hippy Hippy Shake, Kansas City (Hey, Hey, Hey), Tip Of My Tongue, and to record unreleased studio numbers like How Do You Do It."[/INDENT]

Cool article on the infamous and mysterious Ringo Premier kit.

http://www.ringosbeatlekits.com/Premier_Kit.html

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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From Batterhead

"She Said, She Said"!!! Slowly, I turned, step by step.............The drum opening to that song ALWAYS gives me fits. Can never seem to get it "right".I never knew the early crash towards the end in "No Reply" was an error. I always thought Ringo creative/clever for placing that right there!

Great point you guys. Maybe the "early" crash on No Reply is not an error, I figured it was. But on songs like Anytime At All and When I get Home Ringo's crashes often sound a bit uncomfortable and he's not consistent in their placements in the songs so I just assumed...........Doh!

Can't take anything for granted with Mr. Starr! He's still my fave.

Posted on 11 years ago
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For early recordings, check out The Beatles - Anthology I and II (double disk). It contains some great outake tracks. I'm guessing musicians hate outakes, because that means they had to do it over, but I think they are great. They can tell the whole story of a song and how things evolve. Check out No reply [Demo Version], it's take 1 and it's great! They get to a point when they know it's a lost cause and start laughing and making up the words.

You can hear the crispness of that Premier Royal Ace. :) Plus, as an added bonus, you get a lot of sizzle ride.

-Tim

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