Hey Gents.......some educated or experienced opinion's on the value of a kit is needed......I am currently on the hunt for a 70's LUDWIG Vistalite kit, in huge sizes.....26, 18, 16, 14 or even better a 20" floor tom, which is rare but I have seen them. I realize there are tons of Vistalite's out there, but obviously not in these sizes from the 70's. What is at least a general fair price for a kit like this, in excellent condition? There is currently one on Ebay that has been on a listing loop for over a month. Awesome kit, but the kick drum has a crack from the badge to the mount. It is only underneath, not right through and has been professionally repaired. Sizes 26,20,18,14. This guy has been asking for $2250. Has had it listed for well over a month, not a sniff. Is this overpriced. Some perspective please.......thanksHelp2
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from what ive been seeing there all over the board the rare colors are at 3 to 5k some orphan set start @ 750 and up
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
I don't think you'll find many (if any) vista kits in the sizes you're looking for. Everything you're after is a super rare drum. 26" vista bass drums are rarer than hens teeth. Ditto for a 20" floor tom. It could take forever to assemble such a kit. Not to mention costing the equivalent of a down payment on a BMW.
Good luck. I'm sure if you're determined enough, you can do it. How long it will take is another story all together. Rare sizes for vista's.
John
I agree with John 26 inch bass drums from the 70's in great shape are rare and a kit with a 26BD and a 20 ft well if you find one pay what you think it is worth to you as you will not see many.... the new reissue vista's with the b&o badges are better drums with better seems ...
There is a real cool vista kit in tequila sunrise in Bonzo sizes currently on e-bay here's the link http://www.ebay.com/itm/LUDWIG-TEQUILA-SUNRISE-JOHN-BONHAM-SET-CLEAN-VISTALITE-/270858435593?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f106bbc09 But I agree with what was said before. The re-issues are better made drums and I have seen the Bonham reissues going for well under 2k on e-bay Good Luck
There is a real cool vista kit in tequila sunrise in Bonzo sizes currently on e-bay here's the link http://www.ebay.com/itm/LUDWIG-TEQUILA-SUNRISE-JOHN-BONHAM-SET-CLEAN-VISTALITE-/270858435593?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f106bbc09 But I agree with what was said before. The re-issues are better made drums and I have seen the Bonham reissues going for well under 2k on e-bay Good Luck
Hey friend....I have that one on my list......although I really like the kit in blue. There is one currently in blue 70's, listed on Ebay in huge sizes, even a 20" floor tom. Check it out. The issue is that there is a crack in the bass drum, from the badge to the mount, only underneath. He did a good job repairing it, but who knows. It is an obvious concern. He is asking $2250. It hasn't budged in over a month. What do you think about a crack? Anybody else have an opinion on this crack?:confused:
Depends on how well the repair was done. No way to know unless you can make a close inspection. Better if it had been done by a pro.
John
Depends on how well the repair was done. No way to know unless you can make a close inspection. Better if it had been done by a pro.John
Hey John.......right.....he told me that he did it himself by injecting the crack using a syringe with an epoxy. Regardless, even if I would send it out myself to my "Drum Doctor" if fixed properly how bad is it having a crack?
The deal with vista's and cracks is; along the seam = ok, out on the shell = problem. It's like an auto windshield, if the crack is out on the shell, even if you stabilize it, there's always the chance it will reopen from vibration/usage. When the crack is along the seam, the repair is stronger because Ludwig used to cut a 'V' channel at the seam. Because they were trying to cut corners in production, they would only fill the bottom of the channel with glue. Which is why so many vista's crack at the seam!
When you repair a seam on a Ludwig vistalite, you get to fill the channel with glue. A vistalite with a well repaired/filled seam, is stronger/better than when it left the factory. It's too bad the crack in that bass drum is out on the shell itself. Even repaired, it is still unstable and can reopen at any time. Not so with a good seam repair. Trust me, I've repaired several vista shells in my time.
Hope the info helps in your decision making process. There's potentially a lot of money on the table.
John
The deal with vista's and cracks is; along the seam = ok, out on the shell = problem. It's like an auto windshield, if the crack is out on the shell, even if you stabilize it, there's always the chance it will reopen from vibration/usage. When the crack is along the seam, the repair is stronger because Ludwig used to cut a 'V' channel at the seam. Because they were trying to cut corners in production, they would only fill the bottom of the channel with glue. Which is why so many vista's crack at the seam! When you repair a seam on a Ludwig vistalite, you get to fill the channel with glue. A vistalite with a well repaired/filled seam, is stronger/better than when it left the factory. It's too bad the crack in that bass drum is out on the shell itself. Even repaired, it is still unstable and can reopen at any time. Not so with a good seam repair. Trust me, I've repaired several vista shells in my time.Hope the info helps in your decision making process. There's potentially a lot of money on the table.John
Thanks John for the info. It is a tremendous help...I guess in the end that's why this kit has been listed for well over a month at $2250 and still available. It's a shame, but I guess if it was mint he would be asking for double....Em.
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