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is this a solid 1 ply maple shell 26" bass? Last viewed: 5 hours ago

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I 'think' Mark is counting the grain striation on the inner reinforcement ring. He's just calling the grain striations 'plies,' anyone could make that error. The outside part/shell (lighter wood in photo) looks to be single-ply. The shot shows the scarf joint well and the shell appears to be one solid piece. I don't see any plies on the shell wood. If it is a solid shell (and it appears to be,) the drum is more valuable as an instrument even as a project drum.

I'm just guessing, but I think this is what we're seeing: - Please feel free to correct me if I'm the one seeing this wrong. Just trying to arrive at some consensus on what we're all seeing.

[IMG]http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/PurdieShuffle/leedy26bass00013_zps13becbb6.jpg[/IMG]

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Looks like thin veneers on the inside and outside of the shell to me, inner plys are questionable,maybe better shots of the inside and outside of the shell can help!

Posted on 12 years ago
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From mbira

yes that is the scarf joint i took the photo of and the re-ring is oak and the shell is curly maple i believe. I am thinking it is single ply but don't have much experience with this sort of thing. I am curious if this drum is considered valuable (how much is it worth)? because i am considering putting dual tension hardware on it if it isn't that valuable or collectable. Or maybe I would try to sell it. thankshere is another pic not of scarf joint.

If you say the exterior of the shell is curly maple, which it may well be, the inside is definitely mahogany, which would make it a plied shell!

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

I 'think' Mark is counting the grain striation on the inner reinforcement ring. He's just calling the grain striations 'plies,' anyone could make that error. The outside part/shell (lighter wood in photo) looks to be single-ply. The shot shows the scarf joint well and the shell appears to be one solid piece. I don't see any plies on the shell wood. If it is a solid shell (and it appears to be,) the drum is more valuable as an instrument even as a project drum.I'm just guessing, but I think this is what we're seeing: - Please feel free to correct me if I'm the one seeing this wrong. Just trying to arrive at some consensus on what we're all seeing.[IMG]http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/PurdieShuffle/leedy26bass00013_zps13becbb6.jpg[/IMG]John

You would be wrong on your assumption.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

I 'think' Mark is counting the grain striation on the inner reinforcement ring. He's just calling the grain striations 'plies,' anyone could make that error. The outside part/shell (lighter wood in photo) looks to be single-ply. The shot shows the scarf joint well and the shell appears to be one solid piece. I don't see any plies on the shell wood. If it is a solid shell (and it appears to be,) the drum is more valuable as an instrument even as a project drum.I'm just guessing, but I think this is what we're seeing: - Please feel free to correct me if I'm the one seeing this wrong. Just trying to arrive at some consensus on what we're all seeing.[IMG]http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/PurdieShuffle/leedy26bass00013_zps13becbb6.jpg[/IMG]John

ok thanks so much for looking at this guys. PurdieShuffle has the right idea as to the main shell and the re-ring. here are some more pics that might help. My thinking is this is solid shell but it is hard for me to be sure so I wanted to verify it here with the experts. in the close -up of the bearing edge the hoop is on the bottom (outside) the middle light wood is the bearing edge and the wood that looks like mahogany (but i think is red oak) is on the top (inside)

Posted on 12 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

My monitor must be better than yours this is clearly not a solid shell drum, I'll stand by what I'm saying and seeing. I clearly see the plies. how many solid shell drums have you owned just asking?

vintagemore2000 thanks for taking an interest in this thread. I value you questioning that this is a solid shell as it makes for a more detailed investigation into the truth. As to your question I definitely don't feel totally sure I know when I am looking at a solid shell. I do own about 10 drums I think are solid shell drums (some I am absolutely sure of because I made them). 3 or 4 old snares and some hand drums (frame drums and a riq). I used to work at Coopermans Drum factory. They now make mostly drum and fife type drums and frame drums but they go way back and used to make solid hoops for some of the major drum makers. I didn't think bass drums were made with solid shells so I wanted to get verification here. thanks for your help and passion for vintage drums.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From mbira

vintagemore2000 thanks for taking an interest in this thread. I value you questioning that this is a solid shell as it makes for a more detailed investigation into the truth. As to your question I definitely don't feel totally sure I know when I am looking at a solid shell. I do own about 10 drums I think are solid shell drums (some I am absolutely sure of because I made them). 3 or 4 old snares and some hand drums (frame drums and a riq). I used to work at Coopermans Drum factory. They now make mostly drum and fife type drums and frame drums but they go way back and used to make solid hoops for some of the major drum makers. I didn't think bass drums were made with solid shells so I wanted to get verification here. thanks for your help and passion for vintage drums.

Leedy and Slingerland both made solid shell bass drums I have a custom built Radio king 30's model that is solid maple, when I get a chance tonight I'll draw a line on the plies on your first pic. I know the difference between the re rings and the shell it's self just pointing that out from another poster assumption. I have owned many solid shell drums Leedy, Slingreland, Craviotto, and vaughncraft.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 12 years ago
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Well I stand corrected, somewhat. The inside is not mahogany but maple, still not sure it is solid though, that, if it is, is a long scarf joint!!

Thanks for posting better pics.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

Leedy and Slingerland both made solid shell bass drums I have a custom built Radio king 30's model that is solid maple, when I get a chance tonight I'll draw a line on the plies on your first pic. I know the difference between the re rings and the shell it's self just pointing that out from another poster assumption. I have owned many solid shell drums Leedy, Slingreland, Craviotto, and vaughncraft.

I think that 1st photo is misleading please look at the latest photo I posted and see if that still looks like 4 plys.

Posted on 12 years ago
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Also, what is the depth on that drum?

Thanks

Posted on 12 years ago
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