Those drums exude,even contrafibulate, the primordial aura that is Ruddy B#tch...oh,sorry Buddy Rich.Burger Kin

And that is the case here. French Canadians also use 24 hr system of time ie: "18 hr = 6 pm ( like O-1800, or however that is properly written by the military), but although Canadians have used the metric system for decades, if you ask somebody their weight they will probably give it to you in pounds. And we still call 2 x 4's by that name. The inked Sabians I buy up here have the sizes in inch & cm. Can you tell me if the ones on the US market have this?

Yes Sabians in the USA have both metric and Imperial units on them. So have Zildjians since the 1980s. So do most cymbals. But the funny thing to me is that not all manufacturers agree on what the equivalent metric and Imperial sizes are! Turkish, Italian, and Chinese cymbals seem to be made with metric targets.

20" cymbals are undersized at 50 cm (and that's what the ink says) in many cases. Others are slightly oversized at 51 cm (and that's what the ink says). Like this 1980s Zildjian.

[img]http://black.net.nz/avedis/images/medium-ride-ink.png[/img]

Some try and get closer by going in between with 50 ½ cm (which is 19.88" and still slightly undersized):

[img]http://black.net.nz/cym2016/Isty-pre-split-ink.png[/img]

And then they don't all have the actual diameter the ink says anyway. Falling Do

Here in NZ we have had the metric system for years, and I think most people would know their weight in Kg. But we still talk about babies in Lbs and Oz when they first get weighed and announced to the world. And I confess to having to convert between Ha and Acres to this day. And yes, we still refer to 4 x 2's (for some reason the dimensions are reversed here) but they aren't actually that size. They are some slightly different metric equivalent.

i know that guy....He is a really good drummer and he knows quite a bit about drums. Guitar Dude ManI will steer him back towards the right path...