Both are M.I.T. new 5pc sets with cymbals sell for 249.00...Used sets 75.00-100.00..Mikey

Thanks Mikey..in other words cheap starter kits...I cant find a thing about them ..

I hate to ask silly questions, but what does the M.I.T stand for?

made in Taiwan =MIT

Thanks again...my education continues...

Mikey, I noticed your from California...any idea on the quality of the HB Drum line? they're located out there, I found what seems to be an Elite Series for sale, birch shells, reading mixed reviews. Yours or anyone elses thoughts or opinions on the HB Line are most welcome.

I don't know much about the H.B line of drums..i know that are made in japan=M.I.J...They are not made in cal..I will also say years ago[1989-1991} Paiste sold drums also M.I.J and they had a 6 ply birch shell.The drums sounded good i sold alot of these sets..H.B sets maybe like the paiste sets iam not sure...On C/L in ca H.B was selling out the wearhouse of drums about 4 months ago..Iam not sure if they are still selling drums...Mikey

Thanks again...