How often do you gig? With a rack you wouldn't be constantly risking stripping bolts on the kick drum mount for sure.

On the double bass pedal question, I would say it does more to the batter than the shell. I will let the experts give their opinion.

Hi Tom,As for your 1st question No its ok to use the double tom mount on the bass drum i have many vintage set's that are both single and double tom set ups.I have had no problems with the bass drum..Now into the other question about double pedals-{beaters}- on a single bass drum.I would say no problems alot of drums used these types of pedal's.I for one don't when iam playing music and if they want a double beater sound,i always use a double bass drum set..I just don't like to use a double pedal on a single bass drum...Mikey

Preciate the responses. I know it was a trivial question but I had never thought about the stresses over a sustained period of time. My giging set was never played every day, just for gigging and when I needed double kicks for triplets or quads from the bass and toms the speed king did its duty. Todays different ways of drumming seems (to me) to put extra strain on vintage 3 ply drums in a way that, IMHO, was never intended.

Don,t get me wrong I,am not saying I am an extreme drummer but as I age I try to use the new hardware to help lessen the load, so to speak, and just wondered if the new techniques with this hardware caused vintage drums damage over the longer run.

As far as my gigging I only get together with other older muscians about once a month, but I play my vintage drums for a couple hours every day for the exercise. I don,t like going to so called "wellness centers" to use torture devices for the same exercises I can get while enjoying myseld.

Tom

Mikey, I mean this with all love brother, but you have to realize that the other 99% of us do not have over 100 kits at our disposal, and we sometimes have to make do with what we got!!!! You could probably bring a kit to a gig that matched the freaking curtains in every venue you played!!Laughing H

Again, just pokin some fun.

have a wonderful evening

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Mikey I have all your posts and replys and really enjoy the knowledge you share with us but drumhack is right I have one set of ludwigs from my gigging days and don,t want to wear them down to much before they are inherited by my son. I have my first set of 60s Premiers, a large double bass set that belongs to my son but he uses them when not on the road. I,am restoring a 60s set of Gretsch RBs for my grandson to use so I only have 2 sets for myself and I perfer to play my Ludwigs for my exercising.

I was just wondering what other forum members thought about vintage drums playing todays newer methods and hardware. Will they hold up to it.

I am an older fellow but I,ve kept up with the changes in the world of drumming, ie, using newer hardware and methods and was just wondering if the heavier playing would cause more stress on vintage drums thats all. I, like you, think vintage drums can take the newer drum hardware. Well, maybe I will go back to my speed king but its a lot of fun playing double pedals.

The only consession i,ve made so far is lowering my cymbals. Tom

Perk ... "Premier"?! :)

Would love to see pix.

Lowering your cymbals is a good idea. Saves a lot of energy for playing.

JRichard the first set I owned was Premiers. I still have the set but it is not playable, with the exception of the snare drum. I am saving the hardware hopeing to find a project set to restore. So I have a set of Premier kit that consists of parts.

I have always liked the older Premier kits and will someday (I hope) put together another kit around the surviving snare using the surviving hardware. I,ll get a photo of the survivor snare.

The reason for their demise has to do with a train locomotive taking us out in route to a gig a very long time ago, but thats another story.

Tom

Here is the surviving Premier snare. As you can see I tried to match my Ludwig Oyster Black Pearls and had no luck at all. I am going to put the original Gold Sparkle warp back on if I can find a 60s project Premire kit. Tom