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Krupa experts: your opinion is needed here! Last viewed: 4 minutes ago

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From vintage drum bug

So would someone actually try to come up with such a silly joke as faking Krupa's autograph? Ive heard that nowadays theres a lot of fake autographs but was there even a market for that kind of stuff back then? And if youre trying to fool someone wouldnt you try to make it really close to the original so it wont look fake?...I dont know...I see similarities on the rest of the writting not just the words "Gene Krupa". But Thats just my opinion...I guess it would be really expensive to pay a Calligraphy expert?

Yes, there are many fake Krupa autographs out there. You have to expect countless fake autographs with anyone who is famous, just because they are so easy to do, and are valuable and/or prestigious. Nowadays, with the internet, it is much easier to fake an autograph, because you can just look one up and learn how to copy it. Pre-internet fakes will look less authentic, because there wasn't much around to compare them to. This also meant it was easier to pass off any autograph as real...you couldn't just look it up on the internet.

There's a guy in Westchester County, NY, who has been doing fake Krupa autographs, as well as drums and cymbals, for years. His name is Michael Prete, and he basically runs a Gene Krupa scam business. He grew up near Gene in Yonkers, acquired his autograph, some drums, and some cymbals from Gene's estate, and has been making fakes and passing them off as real ever since. I see these items around from time to time, and can recognize them as Prete's. A couple of people have sued him.

Your autograph seems almost like a joke for fun, like "Hey guys, Gene Krupa told me I'm the best!" My father actually did a similar thing when I was about 12 years old...I was feeling down on myself for losing a baseball game. He took a photo of Babe Ruth, and wrote on it, "To Bill - the greatest baseball player in the world. Signed, Babe Ruth". I knew Babe Ruth was already dead, but it was just a fun thing between me and my dad.

One other reason I don't believe your autograph is authentic is because of the grammatical error in the word "your". Gene was a very smart guy, and did so well in his studies that he was actually in the running to become a priest! This was no small feat back then...only very good students were pushed in this direction. He actually went to college for a year, which was rather rare back then. He had strict, very religious Polish parents. He most certainly would have known the correct way to use "you're" vs "your", which this faker obviously did not. The only misspellings I've seen in Gene's writing have been "hip" little shortcuts like "thanx" or "xmas".

I'm attaching a rather humorous fake GK autograph I came across during my search.

Thanks,

Bill

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Posted on 14 years ago
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You got a point there Bill! The "your" really got me thinking...I didnt buy the snare because of the autograph. Actually I didnt pay much atention to it untill my wife made me realise there was an autograph there. The head was very dusty and It was barely visible. I havent washed the head anyway. The guy who sold the drum to me didn't mentioned either, so its not a case of someone trying to make me bite the hook or so...I guess Ill just put the head somewhere and maybe someday Ill have the mistery sorted out...In the meantime its a cool piece of conversation,isn't?

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Another point to ponder was the signer's physical positioning to the item being signed. If he had to reach or sign a snare head in an awkward position, this would certainly not resemble a signature on, say for example, a photograph, where he was seated at a table with the photo in front of him.

If, say, Omar was actually holding the drum while Gene was signing it, this would cause a lot of fluctuation from his standard signature.

My whole point is maybe Gene had to try to sign this snare in a less than desirable position and this caused the irregularities in his signature.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Another good point! HmmmmHmmmmHmmmm...I guess we need Perry Mason here...

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