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Late 50s Slingerland 3-piece: restore/upgrade? Last viewed: 3 hours ago

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Do both badges have the "looped S"? Snare looks looped but bass doesn't, tough to tell from picture. I agree with Rich K. that these can be cleaned up nicely without removing the lugs. Why take a chance with that wrap. Have you checked the interiors for date stamps? Lots of this era have them.

Posted on 8 years ago
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From 10 Lug

In my opinion, the bass has faucet style tension rods that would place it at early 58. Late 58 and 59 had the torpedo style tension rods. I agree with Vater on the clean up procedure. Nice kit.

Shouldn't the faucet style T-rods be paired with the old style claws (open three finger type)? This drum has the claws that are normally seen with the torpedo style T-rods.

Posted on 8 years ago
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From slingerfan

Do both badges have the "looped S"? Snare looks looped but bass doesn't, tough to tell from picture. I agree with Rich K. that these can be cleaned up nicely without removing the lugs. Why take a chance with that wrap. Have you checked the interiors for date stamps? Lots of this era have them.

Yes, both badges have the "looped S" -- I didn't know that was a thing! Attaching pictures of snare and bass badges.

No stamps on the snare, but the bass has one. "P-040" and, facing it, "Dec 1 19??". Looks like by that late in the year, the latter digits were worn down to nubbins! I'll check the tom when I take the hoops/rods off for cleaning. (Leaving the lugs on, I'll just... brush them with dawn/water?)

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Posted on 8 years ago
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That's two more votes from Creighton and Rich for a very gentle cleaning, got it. Rich, what do you think about removing a lug at a time in order to clean both the lugs and the neighboring wrap? I don't want to make it riskier than I need to, so I'll trust your judgment.I'll definitely be keeping my eyes out for a matching floor tom, thanks for the heads up about the upper range of prices, as well as the different finish versions! I don't suppose you happen to know what became of the 3 you bought that didn't match your set?

You may want to try one lug at a time. Those thin wraps that Slingerland and Rogers used on their more wild finishes (mardi gras, capri, ripple) tends to slide on the shell and it's actually the lugs holding it in place. Might be better to pull a lug or two, clean that section and then put the lugs back on. I never thought to do that when I was doing deep cleans on drum sets, but probably should have.

Regarding getting a donor shell and rewrapping it with Bum wrap...their stuff looks nice, but if you ever decide to resell the set (and eventually you will) having the refinished "fake" will hurt the value. And it won't be too cheap.

Precision has reissued Capri, and it looks really cool, but it doesn't look much like the original.

Posted on 8 years ago
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That is a fantastic kit.

The Pearl is great.

Back in the day we called all wraps "Pearl".

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Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 8 years ago
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From jeeves

Yes, both badges have the "looped S" -- I didn't know that was a thing! Attaching pictures of snare and bass badges.No stamps on the snare, but the bass has one. "P-040" and, facing it, "Dec 1 19??". Looks like by that late in the year, the latter digits were worn down to nubbins! I'll check the tom when I take the hoops/rods off for cleaning. (Leaving the lugs on, I'll just... brush them with dawn/water?)

Chicago "looped S" badge was used '56-'59. Capri pearl was first offered in '58 so your guesstimate of '58/'59 is correct. No stamps on a 1-ply snare is correct. Retracting spurs first used in late '57 so that fits also. Torpedo style bass tension rods were introduced in late '57 so your faucet style T-rods seem odd especially with the newer style claws. Snare is a Krupa or Super Krupa as Slingerland had ceased using the Radio King name (although essentially the same drum). Let us know if you find a date stamp in the tom. Great set, play it, enjoy it.

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From jeeves

That's an idea, leedybdp! I guess I wouldn't need to go through the trouble and expense of sourcing a truly matching floor tom, since the wrap won't be original? In the meantime, I'd keep an eye out for a real match.Looking at the Bum Wraps website, it looks like all their wraps are printed digitally? Would they be able to match the occasional shine of the Capri finish? Maybe I should just read the discussions of wrap suppliers you mention...

The 90% correct comment I made is because Bum Wrap's digitally produced wraps do not truly capture sparkle finishes. The tiny sparkly bits in Capri pearl would probably come out true to color, but lacking the glittery aspect of those tiny bits.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
Posted on 8 years ago
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From Rich K.

You may want to try one lug at a time. Those thin wraps that Slingerland and Rogers used on their more wild finishes (mardi gras, capri, ripple) tends to slide on the shell and it's actually the lugs holding it in place. Might be better to pull a lug or two, clean that section and then put the lugs back on. I never thought to do that when I was doing deep cleans on drum sets, but probably should have.

I cleaned them up over the weekend, and I couldn't bring myself to take any lugs off. A soft toothbrush and some dawn solution did allright on the lugs, though there's still plenty of pitting. To be expected, I guess. Everything else got to soak for 24 hours!

From Rich K.

Regarding getting a donor shell and rewrapping it with Bum wrap...their stuff looks nice, but if you ever decide to resell the set (and eventually you will) having the refinished "fake" will hurt the value. And it won't be too cheap. Precision has reissued Capri, and it looks really cool, but it doesn't look much like the original.

That's true, I would list that floor as an afterthought if I ever decided to sell. Definitely wouldn't include it with the kit in any pictures. Looks like a wrap would run me $50, so if I could get a beater floor tom with reasonable hardware for $100, I might consider it. Otherwise, I'll keep looking for a good match!

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From slingerfan

Chicago "looped S" badge was used '56-'59. Capri pearl was first offered in '58 so your guesstimate of '58/'59 is correct. No stamps on a 1-ply snare is correct. Retracting spurs first used in late '57 so that fits also. Torpedo style bass tension rods were introduced in late '57 so your faucet style T-rods seem odd especially with the newer style claws. Snare is a Krupa or Super Krupa as Slingerland had ceased using the Radio King name (although essentially the same drum). Let us know if you find a date stamp in the tom. Great set, play it, enjoy it.

I did find a better date stamp in the tom! To me, looks like "Nov 29 1958" along with the finish "P-040" seen elsewhere (attached). Thanks for the naming clarification - it was hard to tell exactly when that "Radio King" stopped being used. Time to spin up some Krupa albums for inspiration!

While I'm attaching, here's a before/after of a claw.

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Posted on 8 years ago
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From jeeves

I cleaned them up over the weekend, and I couldn't bring myself to take any lugs off. A soft toothbrush and some dawn solution did allright on the lugs, though there's still plenty of pitting. To be expected, I guess. Everything else got to soak for 24 hours!That's true, I would list that floor as an afterthought if I ever decided to sell. Definitely wouldn't include it with the kit in any pictures. Looks like a wrap would run me $50, so if I could get a beater floor tom with reasonable hardware for $100, I might consider it. Otherwise, I'll keep looking for a good match!

That is definitely the way I would do it. The floor tom would, indeed, be an extra added attraction if a potential buyer wanted to cover your investment in that one drum.

No matter how far you push the envelope, it is still stationery.
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