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Leedy ludwig repaint ? Last viewed: 4 hours ago

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Hey all..

Just had a question about refinishing one of my snare drums.. I was thinking about redoing my Leedy and Ludwig Reliance model snare drum in a vintage style black lacquer finish.. I had refinished the drum 2 years ago in a nice dark brown stain, just like the one on this C&C snare drum in the bottom memphisdrumshop.com link.. My question is, has anyone ever done a repaint and lacquer over a stain , and what were your results ?

I love the look of the painted and lacquered old snare drums, and thought i would do mine in black, as it is a neutral and classy finish, and would match my Ludwig kit that i had re-wrapped in custom black and silver finish, which kind of looks like a melted black diamond pearl..

Any thoughts would be appreciated .

http://memphisdrumshop.com/c-c-custom-14-x-65-player-date-ii-snare-drum-brown-mahogany-ccpdii6514sdbmh

Cheers !

Posted on 10 years ago
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If the finish is lacquer base no issues if it's oil the no go you need a barrier coat but u can finish in fine enamel then finish with buffing

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 10 years ago
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if laquer take care:

if the laquer was thinner based, you can use any kind of black paint (water, terpentine or thinner based), though I'd not advice waterbased because it evens out less when drying.

if the laquer was terpentine based, don't use thinnerbased paint, the laquer will cruble.

if the laquer was waterbased, don't use terpentine or thinner based paint, the laquer will crumble.

base of story: don't use heavier solvent based paint over lighter ones

Vintage and custom drum projects:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...2305272732%3A6
Posted on 10 years ago
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I used a clear satin lacquer after i stained the drum just to protect the finish, so it has that matt finish to it, and i only put 2 coats of it.. I did it with the intention of not having a glossy look, but a "weathered" or natural one.. Am i still good to go ?

Posted on 10 years ago
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Now I want to see the custom finish that looks like melted black diamond pearl!

Posted on 10 years ago
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First off there is no thinner base lacquer. Thinner is mineral spirits aka oil or petroleum product the thinner used in lacquer is lacquer thinner, as all compatible like I said a barrier coat Jeff you can step in anytime so that being said your good to go good luck!

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 10 years ago
#6
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Thanks guys !.. Appreciate all the helpful info.. Now i just have to see if i have the brass to do it ;))

Posted on 10 years ago
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Well, in Netherlands we have roughly three kinds of laquer. What I called terpentine based is what in Dutch is called alkydhars based. I'm 100% sure that if you spray thinner based paint (car paint for instance is thinner based) over alkydhars based laquer, the laquer will crumble. 100% sure, so if you want to avoid that make sure what the solvent is in the laquer you used.

Vintage and custom drum projects:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...2305272732%3A6
Posted on 10 years ago
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So, just to be clear, i went to my work room and found the can of clear finish i used..Realized i made a mistake.. What i actually used was-- Varathane Professional Clear Finish 1000 Semi gloss, oil based.. Now i think i'm NOT good to go ?

Posted on 10 years ago
#9
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Exactly correct amundo. . So strip the shell to stained and barrier coat, then soot your finish or sand real good barrier coat then finish accordingly....

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 10 years ago
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