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looking into an older set of red psych ludes and could use some knowledge Last viewed: 4 hours ago

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so im looking into a set of suposedly 71 red psychs. 12-13-16-24. the greens are pretty cremed out though evenly throughout. which i dont mind the look of but i do understand effects value. the only thing i know of wrong with them otherwise is that the wrap is delaminating at the seam of one of the toms.

the reason for wanting them is strictly because i havent had a wood kit in ages and would love a right hand kit until my resto is done.

my questions are as follows

- how hard would it be to fix the wrap?

- what is a fair price as described knowing that i have to do a bit of work at least and if i dont love them im going to pass them on?

- anything fishy to look for as far as the wrap goes? i know its rare so im sure it has variants and fakes

thanks in advance for any pointers here

mark

Posted on 13 years ago
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From SealClubbinEskimo

so im looking into a set of suposedly 71 red psychs. 12-13-16-24. the greens are pretty cremed out though evenly throughout. which i dont mind the look of but i do understand effects value. the only thing i know of wrong with them otherwise is that the wrap is delaminating at the seam of one of the toms.the reason for wanting them is strictly because i havent had a wood kit in ages and would love a right hand kit until my resto is done.my questions are as follows- how hard would it be to fix the wrap? - what is a fair price as described knowing that i have to do a bit of work at least and if i dont love them im going to pass them on? - anything fishy to look for as far as the wrap goes? i know its rare so im sure it has variants and fakesthanks in advance for any pointers heremark

Hi Mark,As far as your questions.To fix the wrap thats a easy fix to do all you need is alittle glue and "C" clamps..If the set is complete not missing any parts,has no mod's i would say 500.00 to 700.00 for the drums only..alittle more if stands come with the set.To check the wrap if you can remove a lug and chack the wrap under it see if it looks better that the wrap nest to it.If it loks the same them its a re-wrapped set you can also check the edges of the drums see if they are re-cut or not..Oh one more thing are you sure that the bass drum is a 24" not a 22" most of these sets had a 22" bass drum but Ludwig also did offer for a small fee to change out the 22" to a 24" bass drum...Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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awesome. glad i got some insight before i went to make an offer on them. guy is asking over double that first number there. so unless i bring something slightly better than an a game, im afraid ill be coming home empty handed tomorrow. if im right i bought a 62-3 SS snare off this guy in fairly decent condition for like 75. talk about bi-polar pricing.

however i am pretty sure it is a 24 bass. is it that much rarer? cause with the wraps being faded and 1 lifting it seems like thats the only thing they have going for them other than being older ludwigs

anyhow thanks for the wisdom mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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Common for wrap on the early 70s ludwigs to start separating. No drills on the drums, and not too bad fading, I'd put more of a range.. if the bass is a 24, anywhere between $500 and $1000. In general though the higher the price the more you should really want them to keep.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I don't know... A 24" psych red bass drum is pretty rare. Unless the color is TOTALLY gone I would think the drums should be worth over $1000.00. The lifting wrap is totally common for 70's Ludwigs. I think it sounds like a cool set. Let us know how it goes.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From wflkurt

I don't know... A 24" psych red bass drum is pretty rare. Unless the color is TOTALLY gone I would think the drums should be worth over $1000.00. The lifting wrap is totally common for 70's Ludwigs. I think it sounds like a cool set. Let us know how it goes.

+1 Pounder/wflkurt. That 24" is rare. If the wrap is not too badly faded, the kit, plus some stands, will fetch $1000 or better. Any price you can negotiate under a thousand dollars will be a good buy.

John

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Vintage 24's slam. Sounds to be an awesome kit. So did you get em????

Posted on 13 years ago
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yes i did! theyre in player condition for sure, but the greens actually fade in and out nicely. over paid a bit i think but i love them so far. cant wait to set them up in the morning. 3 ply with rings. 12-14-16-24. 12 and 16 deffinetly match early 71. bass has a transitional blank badge and the 14 is slightly higher in number than the rest, but no doubt its been with this set a loooong time if it didnt come factory as a set. i was completely shocked when he said he made that kind of mistake though. dude is supposed to send me a ton pics of them at gigs and recordings of the set too. very nice bonus

thanks for the help guys. im psyched!

Posted on 13 years ago
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Lol psyched! Welcome to the 24" Ludwig bass drum club! is the 14" a floor tom or rack tom?

Posted on 13 years ago
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rack tom.. havent seen too many in that size. but then again i havent been watching kits like these in a while

sand regurdless of the pun, i am psyched to have a 24 finally. and what seems to be a damn nice one at that

Posted on 13 years ago
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