I'm wondering if anyone knows of any identical hoops to Ludwig Club Dates? I have been looking for a 12 and 14 inch hoop (6 hole each) for quite a while with no success. I know I can buy new hoops for them easily, but are there any identical to the 60's ones? Are the 80's Ludwig Rockers the same?

I also need the tension rods...

I have several sets right now, so I will likely be sending these down the road when they are finished and want them to be as complete as possible.

Thanks!