Thanks for understanding man. Your set was pretty sweet! By the way that set you showed me hasn't sold for over a year. If you want a nice solid set check this out jp

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ludwig-drumset-Vintage-14x20-8x12-14x14-NICE_W0QQitemZ120511109095QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintgae_Drums_Percussion?

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Buy it man. I promise you this is a great buy. Silver sparkle is a classy looking color and this set looks mint. Sure it is a club date. But, it can be your first lick, of the sweet taste, of VINTAGE LUDWIG....if that made any sincehahaha

Hey brother were all family here, and yeah i know that kit has been shown many time, i have a wfl club date kit it is as cool as christmas it is gold paint think old Cadillac gold, 5x14, (2)9x13,16x16 and 14x22 that's the only clubdate I'll own i love em but they don't bring good money, i bought the black duco kit a long time ago and that is what i paid for it, just trying to get my dough out of it, thanks for the debate

Welcome man. That WFL set sounds pretty cool...I'd love to see some pics of that baby.

It did some weird thing when I typed welcome..sorryhaha

I only have pics of the snare drum, kevin has seen them, they are sooo cool, send me your email address pm it to me i'll send you some pics of the snare drum, the rest of the kit looks the same

RE: The common-ness of WMP compared to blue sparkle. I only want to suggest that blue sparkle is THE most-common of all the wrapped finishes. I'm almost sure of it. WMP is not as common, but it was a popular finish because of the association to Buddy Rich.

The set WMP set that jp was looking at was a BEAUTY! It had the right kind of yellowing to it -really more of a patina than a fade. And that's sometimes the cool thing about WMP. When the drums fade to that beautiful vanilla cream color, then all is well with the world! ;) And when the drums are kept together and patina the same way together, it's like having a custom color.

That WMP was nice, man! All the shells were stamped in red ink and all the drums were matched. They looked to be in extremely good shape and have obviously been well-cared for over the years. No alterations....etc. The hardware didn't appear to be hacked out at all -nothing stripped or worn from over-tightening, etc.

I think a grand was a fair price for a kit in that kind of shape to a guy who really wants a nice vintage set of drums. Even if it's just the shell pack, it's in such nice shape and completely matched. The seller is apparently a good guy, too.

If jp was planning on flipping the kit for a profit, then that wouldn't be the greatest deal, but if he falls in love with them and gets hip to the Ludwig mojo, then what's that worth? A million? Burger Kin

I usually don't go by the common-ness or rarity of the finish, anyway. I love blue sparkle no matter how common it is. And when I found my Deluxe Classic blue sparkle kit, it was in such nice shape, I bought it even though I don't really dig those sizes that much -because it was so beautiful. It was like having a kit from a time machine! That's why it sold more than any other wrapped finish.

All things considered, I think the WMP was/is the best deal on the table.

Nice kit! Great buy! I think he (jp) was looking for the Super Classic sizes, though.

VdF family that was a work in progress!!! and jp is the proud owner of a beautiful wmp ludwig super classic kit thanks to all of our experience, and i completely agree blue sparkle are the most common color on the planet, and now jp has a very classic color that will age like fine wine, myself and all of us were out to do was to get him in a ludwig kit with the least amount of headache and money, i have truly joined a great bunch of like minded folks that love drums be they vintage or new, he was just looking to the best place on the computer for real advice and guidance, and I personally thank everyone of you guys, DRUMMERS RULE!!!! Cool1 Cool1