Paul Cook-Sex Pistols- played Standards. When you see him you certainly get your money's worth.I saw the last Pistols show at Winterland and with the Professionals and he was always in top form and a nice guy to boot. sunburn and all!

Does anyone know about the coating on the interior of those Standard shells and what the sonic difference between shells with that coating and the classic 3 ply shells with the white coating would be?

Are you talking about a "classic" or a standard set?

I was referring to the granitone coating on the Standard series drum shells. Do those shells sound similar to other Ludwig 3 ply shells with the white interiors? Does that make more sense?

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=89&highlight=white+paint

Early thread on Ludwig white paint..

I'm talking about my Standard set that came from the factory with Classic lugs...

What are you talking about?

I think we're on the same page.

Ludwig "usually" put small classic lug casings on the 8x12" and large classic lug casings on the 9x13"toms and all floortoms/bass drums.

To my knowledge, the small '69 casings were always used on toms/floor toms, while the large '69 casings were used on bass drums only.

If one is trying to fake a classic, the lug casing sizes on a 13" tom or floor tom will tell on you. It will look like the SL drums or Rocker drums.

Some of the Standards got shipped with classic lugs. Quite a number of them have shown up that way, and they weren't owner swap outs. I had the opportunity to pull a classic lug off of a Standard kit to examine the imprint in the wrap. On that drum, the classic lug was from the factory.

Other anomalies are that quite a number of early Standard's came with 'mixed' shells. On my '69 Avocado Strata kit all the drums have the 'granitone' interiors except one rack tom... it's got the regular Ludwig white interior.

Standard's were assembled on the same production line as Classic's. I would assume side by side. If they ran short of Standard parts, they just used Classic bits.

You've lost me as your statements contradict each other.

Fish is in tune. I've had a Standard kick with white paint as well.

Mine are factory as the footprints in the wrap matches the lug on the drums..

I love the original Standard drums! Attached are pictures of a beautiful S-300 kit I had back in the early 2000's, in Blue Mist. Sold the kit in 2003. The shells were the first-run issue, with white Resocoat interiors. Exact same shells as the Classic line!

I certainly wouldn't call the hardware "inferior", just less expensive to produce!

Even had the original front "Standard" bass drum head! As you can see, I did replace the straight BD legs with Ludwig fold-down spurs, using Standard tom brackets. Naturally, if I had the kit today, I'd leave it all stock!

The "Jazz Festival" snare was killer!

Mark