That's I why I always wonder if some well known drummer once owned and played any of my vintage sets. You never know if Krupa had a Ludwig set in his basement or if Art Blakey had a Rogers set in his garage. And, any of those old WMP drum sets of any brand could have powered the Glenn Miller Band or Basie's band.
Michael Shrieve's Ludwig Woodstock Drumset on ebay Last viewed: 59 seconds ago
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Having a famous drummer play a random drum set is one thing. In regards to the Shrieve Santana/Woodstock kit, it wasn't just Shrieve's playing the kit that was special. Who was he up until then, after all? He was just a kid drummer in an unknown band. It was the event, itself. It is a part of the musical history in America. The whole thing....the story of Santana's being there....the drum solo on "Soul Sacrifice"...the subsequent 'overnight success' story...half a million hippies in the audience being affected by the rhythm. That drum set is iconic, now. It's like having a significant part of a giant meteorite that shook the Earth.
In it's strictly utilitarian form, it's worth a few thousand bucks....maybe. But we aren't talking about a tool, here. We are talking about an icon of history.
"Nietzsche is dead." -God
I saw Santana a week or two before they played Woodstock at the New York State Pavilion(the one you see in the first Men in Black movie) in 69.It was general admission and there was no seats.You just sat on the floor.I parked myself right next to the stage about 10 feet from Michael and his Ludwigs.
I guess for what he's asking for those drums...that was as close as I'm ever going to get.But truthfully....they do belong in a museum,unless Michael really does need the cash.I think some Japanese collector is going to wind up with those drums though.Thats were a lot of American vintage drums have been going.
Steve B
Things that are attached to iconic events often command a lot of money. Can you imagine what THE Ringo set from the Ed Sullivan Show is going to sell for one day? I can guarantee you it will sell for a sliiiiiiight bit more than $350K...and why? -the same reason as given above - These are the objects that have been "to the moon and back" so-to-speak. That drum set is a tangible object that echoes an era that is now intangible.
Unfortunately O-Lugs, THE Ed Sullivan Ringo kit was partially destroyed by a fire at Ringo's home in California some years back. I believe the only surviving drums from that particular kit are the snare and the rack tom.
Ringo actually had 5 drumkits with the Beatles. 2 downbeat kits, 2 super classic kits, and the maple Hollywood kit. The second downbeat kit and the rest of the Beatles kits survive complete to this day. Ringo STILL has them. Something tells me they will belong to Zakk someday.......
You never know-After all, e bayers use Bonham and Moon to sell stuff; why not Ringo?
Funny you mentioned that. I restored a 22/16/13 mid 60s Ludwig kit last winter, rewrapped it in 60s BOP. I tried selling it on eBay as a "Ringo" kit, even putting "Ringo" in the listing title. Couldn't sell it in two seperate 7 day auctions. The third time around I dropped "Ringo" from the listing title and I got my BIN price...
I still remember the Ed Sullivan show when the Beatles made their debut. The ES Show was a "staple" at our house; we never missed it. What I remember about that show most (I was about 8 years old) is that when the girls started screaming my dad jumped up and shut the TV off... luckily, my older sister's tears prevailed, and we only missed about half a song!
As for Woodstock, I have no problem with the historical significance as to our culture and Rock music. But $350Gs? No-way it's worth it to me. A "replica" kit would be just fine...
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A replica kit, you say? In a previous post, I stated the obvious--I consider mysef a master at stating the obvious. A 60's Ludwig Champagne Sparkle drum set in those sizes with that snare drum is perhaps the most common four piece drum set of that time period. Maybe WMP would nudge it out of first place?
Funny you mentioned that. I restored a 22/16/13 mid 60s Ludwig kit last winter, rewrapped it in 60s BOP. I tried selling it on eBay as a "Ringo" kit, even putting "Ringo" in the listing title. Couldn't sell it in two seperate 7 day auctions. The third time around I dropped "Ringo" from the listing title and I got my BIN price...I still remember the Ed Sullivan show when the Beatles made their debut. The ES Show was a "staple" at our house; we never missed it. What I remember about that show most (I was about 8 years old) is that when the girls started screaming my dad jumped up and shut the TV off... luckily, my older sister's tears prevailed, and we only missed about half a song!As for Woodstock, I have no problem with the historical significance as to our culture and Rock music. But $350Gs? No-way it's worth it to me. A "replica" kit would be just fine...
Well, a Jackson Pollock sold in a private auction through Sotheby's in 2006 for 156.8 million dollars. Is it worth it? Not to me, either. But not everything that happens is based upon whether or not I can afford it or whether something is worth it to me. I'm just describing why people can price iconic objects higher than strictly utilitarian objects. It's not a matter of a common configuration. It's a matter of a specific instrument. In fact, just off hand, I'd have to say that, personally, I don't remember ANY other drum set more associated with the imagery from Woodstock than Shrieve's Santana kit.
No one expects it to sell for $350K....but IF it did sell for that price, it wouldn't have anything to do with the configuration or its commonality. How many champagne sparkle SCs were at Woodstock? One.
"Nietzsche is dead." -God
First and foremost, the kit is incredibly overpriced! My vote is for donation to the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame! I was there just this last May and was incredibly disappointed at the lack of drums displayed there. Basically nothing to get excited about. This kit would be over-the-top as a piece of rock n roll history. Sadly, though, I have a feeling that Don would rather make a buck (or more!) of this kit than to do what's right. Maybe he'll read this and change his mind?!!
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