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Most Important People to drumming Last viewed: 14 minutes ago

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Well this thread was one of the few that got deleted during the site change over but I thought it was an interesting topic so I will present the question again for your discussion and or friendly debate.

Who do you think are the most important people to drumming as a whole? There are lots of lists that are published every year that want to know who you think the best drummers are and in many cases these end up being nothing more than popularity contests. What I want to know is who do you think are the most important people to drumming as a whole? Who are the people that were the ground breakers and the trailblazers, the movers and the shakers and the ones who made it possible for all of us to do what it is we do today? I am also interested in the companies that fit this description as well.

Examples

Louie Bellson helped pioneer the double bass drum set up, Gene Krupa brought the drummer to the foreground and Buddy Rich was well...... Buddy Rich. However; there are many others such as Sanford Moeller who was a drum Maker but a pioneer of rudimental Drumming, Isaac Beardsley who is credited as the youngest drummer to play during the civil war, Duplex drum company patented the first dual tension system for a drum and the list goes on.

There were a couple of really good responses in the original thread so I hope you will repost.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Since the drum set is exclusively an American developed instrument with components/drum types from all over the world. I would have to say the man that 1st developed and employed the bass drum pedal and possibly the one responsible for the hi hat stand/pedal. IMHO

Posted on 11 years ago
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I think Gene Krupa was the gent that put drums & drummers on the map..

He paved the way for Buddy & a 1000 + others to develop the skills and showmanship to entrench the drummer as the backbone of modern music. He also was involved in development of the HH pedal/stand as we know it today..

Cheers

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Hmmm. Tough one.

I would have to say:

The original Avedis Zildjian

Fred Grestch for the drum shell without re rings

Remo D. Belli for the mylar drum head.

As for drummers, that's even tougher.

Kruppa for sure.

Bellson for developing double bass drum playing

and maybe Jo Jo Jones for helping popularize brushes and the hi hat.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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I would have to vote for the Ludwig brothers and their development of the first viable metal bass drum pedals. They seem to have been real innovators.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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If the question is, who ARE the most important people to drumming? I would say our kids, more specifically MY kids........ kidding. Who WERE the most important people to drumming, Gene Krupa, 1st to record the drums, and play his way.

In a land of chimpanzees I was a monkey.
Posted on 11 years ago
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From longjohn

I think Gene Krupa was the gent that put drums & drummers on the map..He paved the way for Buddy & a 1000 + others to develop the skills and showmanship to entrench the drummer as the backbone of modern music. He also was involved in development of the HH pedal/stand as we know it today..Cheers

I agree. Going through a relative's old records I found a 78 rpm by Krupa and His Orchestra.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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gotta be Krupa as far as what he did for drum set drummers. tunable toms, hi hat.

Moeller and his deciple Chapin for breaking down the techniques.

Posted on 11 years ago
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If we're going to give a nod to Krupa,which he no doubt deserves,then we also have to acknowledge Baby Dodds,who Krupa cites as one of his biggest influences.

Louis Bellson,for double bass,and having a hand in the development of new beat hi hats,now a benchmark,by which others are measured,and for being the supraphonic of the cymbal world.Thanks also to the Ludwigs for using the aluminum alloy shell,as a cost saving measure,to replace brass.

Ringo,for following in Krupa's footsteps,and re- popularizing the drummer.

The hi hat?Both Wallberg and Papa Jo Jones,both take credit,which is entirely possible.

C.G.Conn,who in the mid 50's sold Leedy and Ludwig,back to the Ludwigs,and Bud Slingerland ,who came up with half the money,with the Ludwighs ,and bought the Leedy half of the house.

Steve B

Posted on 11 years ago
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Too many individuals, too many companies all made invaluable contributions to the art of drumming. The most simple and obvious answer to the question is... Us!

We keep drumming alive every time we play, every time we fix a drum so it's still around after we're gone, every time we teach a newbie something we know, that we learned from doing the work. We keep it 'alive' for the next generation. I can honestly say that I do my share by freely giving to others, the information and knowledge that I have accumulated and which was once freely given to me. It's a drum circle that is unbroken in time.

So the answer is; us... we are the most important people to drumming.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 11 years ago
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