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Mystery Slingerland Flea Market Find Last viewed: 8 hours ago

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Greetings,

I found this 14" x 14" floor tom at a Flea Market recently. It was paired with an MIJ "Club Date" style rack tom in Red Sparkle. When I first looked at it, I thought it might be an MIJ Slingerland Copy with the lugs, etc. But then I started looking closer at it. The wood beneath the flaking paint did not look at all like Luan/Philippine Mahogany. It sure looked like "real" wood (Maple)? Plus, I had never seen an MIJ shell with a painted or lacquered finish, at least originally. Also, the tone control knob definitely looked like a Slingerland. It came with straight legs and the brackets appear to be spring loaded (they had regular, Phillips head screws in them, obviously not original). It also came with Stick Saver hoops. Here's the weird thing. There was no badge on it. There was not even a breather hole on it! Weird. Could this be a mistake from the factory? As you can see by the interior pictures, it doesn't look like a breather hole was ever drilled (There is no obvious fill in or cover up of a breather hole inside anywhere).

It sure looks like a Slingerland to me. What say you? How common/uncommon were lacquer/painted finishes in that era? I presume the lacquer/painted finish is original? What does the "M" signify inside the shell? I know "P" meant pearl, or wrapped finish.

The shell is in good shape and other than the flaking of the paint on the exterior, the wood looks good and the shell is in round.

Any thoughts or comments on this would be most appreciated.

By the way, I had never heard of a Remo Diplomat Mark 5 before. There was one on each side of the drum.

I got this drum, the MIJ club date tom, an MIJ Hi-Hat stand (missing the pedal), a cheapo 10" Japan made brass cymbal, and a really nice set of Pasha Made In Italy 14" hi-hats (look and sound just like thin A. Zildjians)....all for $50.

V

Posted on 9 years ago
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Definite Slingerland... Nice Find.... The "M" denotes Lacquered Finish, as opposed to a "P" indicating shell was to be wrapped....

CHEERS

John

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 9 years ago
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Nice find! Slingerland didn't start putting badges on toms until 66. Before that it was just on snares and bass drums

Posted on 9 years ago
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Definitely Slingerland, no badges on them that era. Gotta love those flea market finds! I've been looking for a project 14 to recover for my pink Slingy kit, if your thinking of selling it, I'd be very interested. Rich

Posted on 9 years ago
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A really nice find! Concerning the Remo head, the M5 is 5mil thick... very thin! A typical Diplomat head is 7.5mil. I can see a symphonic percussionist using an M5 for a batter head, but I can't imagine using it as the batter for a floor tom. Wouldn't take much to break it!

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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From idrum4fun

A really nice find! Concerning the Remo head, the M5 is 5mil thick... very thin! A typical Diplomat head is 7.5mil. I can see a symphonic percussionist using an M5 for a batter head, but I can't imagine using it as the batter for a floor tom. Wouldn't take much to break it!-Mark

Off topic, but do you have any idea when Remo was using that logo and typeface combination? I've got a couple heads like that and I'm just wondering how old they might be. I figure they're less than 20 years old but I really have no idea.

Anyone know?

Zach

Currently looking for a 3-ply 24x14 Ludwig in champagne sparkle w/rail consolette and cymbal mount!
Posted on 9 years ago
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From longjohn

Definite Slingerland... Nice Find.... The "M" denotes Lacquered Finish, as opposed to a "P" indicating shell was to be wrapped....CHEERSJohn

Correct. The "M" stands for maple, the outer ply on shells to be lacquered. Tight grain and light color provides a nice painting surface (can be seen in second picture). Wrapped or "P" shells would have a mahogany outer ply.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From sws2h

Nice find! Slingerland didn't start putting badges on toms until 66. Before that it was just on snares and bass drums

Straight legs with push buttons is also correct ('58-'65).

Posted on 9 years ago
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From TheElectricCompany

Off topic, but do you have any idea when Remo was using that logo and typeface combination? I've got a couple heads like that and I'm just wondering how old they might be. I figure they're less than 20 years old but I really have no idea.Anyone know?

Definitely a 60's logo. I wish Remo would go back to this size logo!

-Mark

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