Not sure I can help, but I do observe with interest that you have a 90746 drum that you bought in early '67 with a grouping of others at 55xxx or less that came with that drum.

Are all the tags the same style or do the '69 drums have a borderless tag? I have a set of Rogers that I believe are from very early Fullerton period in '69. They have serial numbers 10xxx and no borders around the edges of the paper tags.

Dan,thanks very much for your interest.I thought it was also strange to have a 90746 tag in there with the others in the 55xxx range and before, but who knows with Rogers tags?It IS one of the original set bought in 67`.All the tags are the same with bordered tags inclu. the 69`ones which are likely 68` builds.This is all a mystery to me and i`m hoping Ploughman and DanC will weigh in here on this one.Really would like to get to the bottom of this but not sure i ever will?Thanks again Dan.

Wayne

I'm not anywhere near being an expert. If I owned those drums since they were new, and if I had receipts, I would consider those receipts to trump any other speculation as to the ages of the drums. You know for an iron clad fact that the drums could not be any newer than the day you bought each of them. How old they are is the real question. I don't think that can be determined any way other than by a shipping manifest with serial numbers or a factory inventory with serial numbers from the Rogers Company. Lotsa luck finding that.....................................I doubt that could ever be found. May we see those wonderful old Rogers drums? Are they all the Champagne Sparkles?

So if I understand correctly. 90746 was in 1967. and 90744 was two years later in 69?

You bought or your ordered? If you bought, they were made at least a week before you got them. Other than that, they could have been in the store for several months. The bigger the store the more likely they might have sat a few months. The 90744 and 46 don't make any sense. There is no way to reconcile those numbers and the two year difference, unless they came together and 64947 was with the original set.

My Steel Gray Ripple set was supposedly purchased new in 1967. I cannot confirm that, it is what I was told by who I purchased them from, and he supposedly got them from the original owner. 51069 and 51087 both Clevelands, and 78062 Dayton, all flat gray. How long did they sit? or did they sit? who knows?

I agree with leedybdp.

Thanks Howie and Jack for weighing in on this.And what you said Howie about the original receipts trumping all other speculations is very true and as you said" they aren`t any newer than the day i bought them".

Jack,the 90746 didn`t make any sense to me either, how it could land in with my original set and then 2 yrs. later the 90744(2 no`s apart).One thing for sure... is that the 9xxxx serial #`s were in play in 1968.I may have made an error in judging what was the original set from the add ons and as you said "the 64947 may have been with the original set"-that makes more sense to me.

Howie,there is a pic in the "Gallery" on pg.7 under"1967 Rogers Double Champagne Sparkle".But here`s a pic to save you the search...thanks again guys.

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Nice drums.

The 64 number being part of the original set makes much more sense.

From the picture, the thing that makes the most sense to me is buying another floor tom with a serial number right around 9074X to fill in the gap on the right-hand side of the picture.

Truth is, I have now idea how one would play all those drums from a single throne, so kudos to you Wayne on your superior reach alone, never mind having kept your drums all those years.

Thankyou Jack for putting this large drum puzzle into perspective.When that many were bought in a couple of yrs.(some used more than others) and in different configurations, it would be easy to mix up the original set.Amazing the difference in wrap colour with the two toms on the right in pic(hardly used) and that`s not sunlight trickery.That is the true colour of original"Pink Champagne Sparkle".The used drums have that golden/bronze colour to them as all i`ve seen do.I used to think it was nicotine from clubs that altered the shade but now i`m thinking the natural time thing.

Wayne

Dan-it would be like looking for a"needle in the perverbial haystack" and i know you were chuckling,but it makes total sense.I`d have two dbl tom sets with close serial #`s and with the new ft added, i`d still have the original two up and two down configuration,ha-can`t beat that!

Truth is i`m 6'2" and have a good reach but they were set up this way for the photo shoot.Had to stretch them out to get them in the sunlight as they take up alot of space.When i played the full set in the late 60`s they were much closer in and very reachable.Also i`m a lefty to they are all set up backwards to me.I set them up righty as most drummers are.Thanks for the kind words Dan and here`s a pic to give you a better look...