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Old Rogers Shells Beyond Repair? Help!!!1 Last viewed: 11 minutes ago

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So I was really excited to pick up these shells fill some holes and graduate to a new level of restoration greatness!!!!... until I got a good look at em....boy what a mess! Plenty of new holes to be filled which I am okay with but was not expecting the massive edge damage to the floor tom and rack tom. Which I must admit I have never tackled before. They were poorly re-wrapped and covered the lower lugs making them concert toms essentially but once the wrap is off all the original lug holes are there. They appear to be drilled for Beavertails which is good. The tags were painted over and cannot be read on the 13x9 and Kick number 2. These 2 drums also seem to me to feel different then the floor tom and kick which have original tags but are different holiday tags.Kick one has the best chance at survival at this point....Oh and the drums with the painted tags do still have the outline of the tag inside them with the same measurements as Rogers holiday tags.So take a look and let me know if they are beyond repair and any suggestions/info would be great!

First our friend the floor tom.

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7318.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7319.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7320.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7321.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7322.jpg[/IMG]

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 13 years ago
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Here is the rack tom edge damage:

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7325.jpg[/IMG]

Painted over tag?

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7323.jpg[/IMG]

and Kick Drum 1 ...has four big drilled out holes in the lug area

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7329.jpg[/IMG]

and did Rogers cut into the re-ring with the placement of the leg holders?

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7330.jpg[/IMG]

Tag shot with bad replacement of tom holder

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7331.jpg[/IMG]

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 13 years ago
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And finally a really beat down kick number 2

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7327.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/skapunk_edge/IMG_7328.jpg[/IMG]

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 13 years ago
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Thats one beyond anything I would take on.

The 49xxx number puts it into late 64.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 13 years ago
#4
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:2Cents:...Looks like you just bought some parts drums...

I would throw the shells in the trash...CryBaby

Then,hunt the CLOWN down who did that to them,and string him up by his thumbs!Eye Ball

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 13 years ago
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Ps..what was he doing?..trying out his new hatchet on the bearing edge of the 2 drums?

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 13 years ago
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From The Ploughman

Thats one beyond anything I would take on. The 49xxx number puts it into late 64.

With the star washers and all?

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 13 years ago
#7
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I have repaired shells like this in the pass..On your floor tom and mounted tom.This is the way i have fixed shells like this in the pass.First cut out bad spot of the shell say on your floor tom cut it out the shell an inch on each side of the bad spot and 3 inchs down the side.Cut a new piece the same size from another rogers shell glue the new piece in the shell clamp it with "U" clamps with pieces of wood-{one on inside of shell one on outside of shell]- from a shell to keep the new piece in place.....Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
#8
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Those can be repaired, but it will take some skill. There are a few different ways to go: you could cut a piece of shell from another drum and glue it in place as described above. Or, you can build those areas up with wood putty, like Plastic Wood, and reshape the edge. Those edges look pretty rough all around, so recutting might be needed on a few of them after the putty job is done. The extra holes can be patched with plugs from a donor shell. All of this will take time and patience and skill.

If they had the original wrap it might be worth the trouble, but since they have already been rewrapped I don't believe it would be worth the effort - unless you have a lot of time on your hands and you're interested in embarking on a crusade.

And yes, Rogers did drill for mounting hardware near the rering which required cutting into the ring at times.

By the way, star washers were years in the future when that Cleveland drum was built: that's a case of wrong era hardware being put on the drum somewhere along the way...

Posted on 13 years ago
#9
Posts: 351 Threads: 22

Total Disaster! crying2-07

I would take off reinforcing rings, repaired them, then cut shells to smaller sizes, especially bass drum.

Re-wrap everything.

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In case of deal with johnnyringo:
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...80&postcount=1
Posted on 13 years ago
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