now we all know vintage original is the best, but were does restoration and preservation come in? As a historic preservationist/restorer I have a wide view, my take is if its all period correct parts it should be a acceptable alternate with out such a hit on value, I wonder what percentage in value drops, say from just parts to wrap, paint and wood replacement( just some chrome, to completely using all of the above ), now mind you I'm saying correct everything same year from original manufacturing. What would be the level on a scale 1 to 10 being 10 the nos in box off line drum! and im talking museum quality restoration / preservation...i saying if it looks museum qulaity and its has all nos or oem parts it sholud be as much as high 8 low 9's...
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66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
now we all know vintage original is the best, but were does restoration and preservation come in? As a historic preservationist/restorer I have a wide view, my take is if its all period correct parts it should be a acceptable alternate with out such a hit on value, I wonder what percentage in value drops, say from just parts to wrap, paint and wood replacement( just some chrome, to completely using all of the above ), now mind you I'm saying correct everything same year of manufacturing. What would be the level on a scale 1 to 10 being 10 the nos in box off line drum! and im talking museum quality restoration / preservation...i saying if it looks museum qulaity and its has all nos or oem parts it sholud be as much as high 8 low 9's...
"...but were does restoration and preservation come in?..." One quote that I always remember is: "Rust does not sleep"...
"... my take is if its all period correct parts it should be a acceptable alternate with out such a hit on value..." I agree 100%.
Mike Curotto
I am more of the "leave it the way it is". It shows the history of the drum. But I can see legitimate arguments for both restore or leave as-is. If you're using the kit to play shows maybe a resto is in order, but how do you explain Willie Nelson using his trashed guitar with the cavernous hole? To each his/her own. Though I've grown to dislike the overly yellow pee-stained-looking wmp wraps. But no doubt it's fun to contemplate your choices. That's why we're here :)
I`m also a 'leave it as is" guy unless it really bothers you.I think marks,dents rash,wrap cracks,etc all lend originallity to the kit-they are part of the history of the drum.I had a tough choice to make with this Rogers 13" tom and decided to "leave it be" and in hindsight i`m glad i did.
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
I love it both ways. I love the old well used but clean and polished drum but also am impressed with a fully restored original one. I place the value at what it is worth to me to own it and don't care about the market value.
I like my drum original, but I do clean them, Corrosion on metal parts is not a good thing. also want the parts to be factory original meaning if a part is missing it needs to be what came from the factory..
Most of my drums I like to keep original. There are some areas that need to be fixed though. For example with my Ludwig kit it really needed some edge work, re-gluing of loose plies and so forth. My Rogers kit though it has wrap issues I am never going to re-wrap that! From what I have seen the finish I have is WAY to rare and worthwhile to touch.
Other drums though like my old Sonor Phonics I had no issue with reworking into what I liked. That and with my Gretsch kit you guys know my thoughts.
That being said things like rust, broken or missing parts and so forth should all be addressed. I like to keep all the original parts there or replace them with original parts when possible. Even with my new drums they come with things I never use but I leave them as is.
I play in two bands plus side stuff. I like to keep a kit at each band's practice space, have a kit in the car ready to go and one at the house to practice on. For me it makes sense to have a few kits. I only trust my main band to keep my nice stuff there though! Plus I insure ALL my equipment.
So original when possible, match or fix as needed and just play em.
L.A. Camco 12 14 18 Moss Green
Gretsch Round Badge 12 14 18 w/snare Champagne
Gretsch Round Badge 12 14 20 w/snare Burgundy
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I like my drum original, but I do clean them, Corrosion on metal parts is not a good thing. also want the parts to be factory original meaning if a part is missing it needs to be what came from the factory..
I'm with VM2000 on this. I like to preserve and restore, where necessary, with period correct parts. That applies to houses, cars, furniture and drums. I also believe that rust is not patina...it's neglect. So, I will keep a drum "original", preserve the wood and remove the rust, if present.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp
once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
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