there is one more aspect to those who collect or buy to play vintage anything,

supply and demand will dictate the market for futures as like a commodity so there is a bankable return for the right situation whether it be drums or anything rare and discontinued, what a thread , i tell you i can understand the hoarding thing that's what you have to watch out for, but they said a new study says " that going out daily to shop has a heart healthy benefit". also i like "if its set up play it" in storage just don't work.

"walk the streets for money i don't care if it's wrong or if it's right"

[COLOR="Blue"]Who am I to tell you that your opions on this subject are wrong? But, I stongly disagree with you. Drums (no matter how much we love them) are just like any other "widget" that people decide to collect. Collecting DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY EQUATE TO HOARDING. Those of us who collect anything have our reasons for doing what we do. To call us unstable reeks of elitism and smugness or possibly fear. Your family connection with hoarding seems to have slanted your thinking related to hobbyists who take great joy from our collections. My collection is always evolving, and is limited to the eight or nine sets that comfortably fit in my drum room. If I find a drum set that I want, a drum set in my drum room will need to go in order to accomodate the new acquisition. Consequently, I have passed on acquiring some nice vintage drum sets at bargain prices because I don't want to get rid of any that I already own. I am very content with my version of collecting in my retirement years the "tools of ignorance" that helped me enjoy my youth, adolescence, early adult years, and the rest of my life. If we ever downsize in living space, I will prioritize which drums end up as my keepers, and which ones are sold off to other lovers of vintage drums.[/COLOR]

I just pick up everything drum related that I come across that seems cool and can be had at a decent price. Sometimes they are garbage kits that I find cheap and fix up to sell to beginners or someone looking for a practice kit for really low prices...mostly to help kids get into drumming affordably with a professionally set up and tuned kit.

Sometimes the kits I find are cool American made 40's-70's kits that need some fixin up or if I am really lucky DONT need a lot of fixing up. Either way, if they end up sounding great, I will usually keep them...at least until I notice that they are taking up too much space and that I dont really like them enough to keep. Then Ill usually just sell them for a small profit to someone who digs em more than me.

As time goes on I sell the "less cool" stuff and hold on to the cream that rises to the top (depending on what I am into at the moment). When I need some bucks for bills or need to raise money to buy something that I can't live without...then Ill sell something.

I dont see it as such a serious thing that different levels of "collector status" need to be argued about or justified. I just like drums and so I have them at my house. I think keeping it under control is key...unless you are wanting to do a major investment/business in vintage drums to make money. In that case...go for it. Who am I to say a drum business is wrong? Its way better than investing in the stock market, thats for sure!

-Adam

If it weren`t for the collector/hobbiest, many drums of the past would not be available to view or play, they would be extinct, and I myself couldn`t dig that !!

How can drums that don`t exsist,...come up on the market for others to enjoy ? If it weren`t for collectors` data and parts stored,..how could you repair/restore ?

If it weren`t for sites like this,...Where would you interact with the knowlage ?

Not that it really matters, but you absolutely missed the points of my post. I never stated that collecting automatically equates to hoarding. Mainly because that statement makes no sense with the current word choice. Do me a favor ... read the post again and pull out the exact statement that supports your refute. Thanks.

Also ...

I'm not the one who called anyone unstable. I'm just stating current research. If you are unhappy with the findings, I really can't help you. It's not my findings.

I would invite you to research the topic yourself and come to terms with it however you might.

You honestly don't have to justify any part of your collecting to me or anyone else.

If you carry an opinion, good. But take the time to educate yourself on the topic prior to disagreeing with another. Otherwise it's just a long distance peeing contest.

Please, research the topic for yourself. I'm not attacking you or anyone else. These are facts.

Gee golly gosh. I suppose that you expect an apology from someone obviously not as intelligent and knowledgeable as you. I'm sorry to disappoint you, and also not inclined to conduct psychological research about people who collect for a hobby. I'm just a dumb old retired guy who likes vintage drums, and has the means, the available space, and an understanding wife who likes that I pursue a nice hobby. All I ask of you is to accept the fact that many of us who are members of this great forum consider ourselves to be collectors with no psychological defects that compel us to acquire our drums. I don't consider any of my drums or drum sets to be redundant. Each drum set or snare drum or cymbal is a unique entity or ensemble. I respect your opinions. Please respect the opinions of others who do not feel the need to read the same "research" articles as you.

No apology would be expected. Just don't misquote me or put words in my mouth. That's where my foot goes.

[SIZE="6"][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Difference of opinion.......truce![/COLOR][/SIZE]

did some one say psychedelic hmmm

"incense and peppermints color of wine ,the things we do la la la"

"sha la la la live for today have no worry's about tomorrow hey hey "

peace be with you all