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Rebound issues with 26" Bass Drum Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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Hi guys,

Just added some Ludwig silver dot heads on my 26" vistalite bass drum. After tuning up and playing for a bit, I notice that I am having some issues with rebound after the bass drum beater strikes the batter head. The beater strikes the head an unintended second or third time (very quietly) after the initial strike.

What is my problem here? Is it technique? Head tension? Both? I havent played this kit in about a year, as I've switched over to a much smaller Slingy kit. Maybe I just need to get used to the extra six inches of bass drum again?

Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated! As always thanks!

James

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Posted on 13 years ago
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What kind of beater and how long is the beater? Did you reset the tension when you switched to the smaller kit? Things to consider. If you have the pedal tight try loosening it. If loose, try it tight. Also, do ou have muffling in the kick drum? If you showed a video of you playing it it might make it easier for us to see as well as you. Good luck man.

Sean

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Make some air holes around the perimeter of the reso head, or cut a 5" port into it. The release of the air pressure inside the drum (when you strike it,) will stop the pedal chatter on the beater end. Needs a vent is all.

John

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I recently had a similar occurrence when I set up a new pedal on a 24" (ported BD). I had set up the pedal " by hand " on a workbench & what seemed right on the bench was not right on the kit.. too little spring tension is the probable cause.. you have to juggle for feel but for a firm return response as well..

Cheers

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Play with the head tension. On my 26" I keep the batter head really slack and the front head medium tight. I also had to learn to not "dig" the beater into the batter head. I use a clamp-on muffler on front and that controls the amount of resonance.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Don't bury the bass drum beater into the head. This can cause the problem you mention, particulary if the batter head has mid-high tension.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From bigz

Don't bury the bass drum beater into the head. This can cause the problem you mention, particulary if the batter head has mid-high tension.

Plus 1! If you're using the higher tuning like Bonzo used, you've got a hell of a trampoline type effect going on & you have to get the beater off the head very quickly. Think of a high pitched, lively snare head with the stick pushed into it instead of bouncing off of it...you're getting a "roll" or "double bounce" effect. You have to get that beater released & ready your foot for the next lick. I used a lot of slide technique & switched back & forth between heel up & heel down. It helps to be in good shape too, because playing a "live" head will wear your a$$ out, it also has a smaller tolerance window for sloppy play...it's a big drum, with a big, loud sound!...if you play slop, the audience will hear slop. I remember when I got my big boy Rogers with a 24" & heard the play back for the first time...I was embarrassed! I highly suggest setting up a recorder during practice, it'll help you get a feel for where the bass licks are falling...I record when setting up anything new, because sometimes the drummer needs a longer break in period than the drum does! LOL!

Just my 2 cents...that's about all it's worth!Yes Sir

Dan

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I'm having the same issuse with my 24 BD, I plan to loosen the beater head a lil.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Your keeping the mallet of the bass drum pedal into the head...you have to follow through and release the pedal from the skin after every flam! sounds like a lot of work,but thats the correct way to play the bass drum! the bigger the bass drum,the more "dribble" will occur...try playing FLAT FOOTED,if you play heel up,and vise versa if heel down...

Posted on 13 years ago
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all good suggestions I play 26's and I have found if you want to play with a tight head use the felt strips both front and back and you must be precise with your foot, a port will help also but it makes the drum sound different , use felt beater not one of the moderner HARD felt ones with plastic on the back just a good old speed king type beater keep the tension up a slack head on a 26 sounds like a bat hitting wet cardboard.. have fun..

Posted on 13 years ago
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