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Removing some bounce from bass drum? Last viewed: 2 seconds ago

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I am using a 16 x 16 converted floor tom as a bass drum. The issue is the head bounces so much that when i try and do single hits, they tend to bounce and do 2-3 mini hits.

Will these fix the issue? If so, which ones?

http://www.interstatemusic.com/34088-Slug-Percussion-BB550JNB-Uni-Badge-Bass-Drum-Batter-Badge-Pad-BB550JNB.aspx

http://www.interstatemusic.com/34940-Evans-EQPC1-Clear-Cordura-Single-Bass-Drum-Patches-Pair-EQPC1.aspx

http://www.interstatemusic.com/33973-Remo-KS0004PH-Single-Falam-Slam-Bass-Drum-Impact-Pads-Pair-KS0004PH.aspx

Posted on 13 years ago
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So you're getting more out of your BD than the rest of us do?

For every one you lay down you get three?

WOW Virgil Donati would kill for that.

Question, there's a vent hole, yes? If not, there's your bounce issue, air can't escape.

Posted on 13 years ago
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That may be the issue... Is there anything I can do, other than cut a port hole?

Posted on 13 years ago
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Drill a vent hole, usually 3/8". The grommet can be had for about $1. Check out any online drum parts site. If you don't want it to show, drill it on the underside of your BD, centered or close to the reso head.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From JRichard

Drill a vent hole, usually 3/8". The grommet can be had for about $1. Check out any online drum parts site.

There is a vent hole! So is that not the issue?

Posted on 13 years ago
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There are many variables on this one......head tension, size and number of vent holes, pedal spring tension.....

You may want to play around with the drum head tensions a bit....too tight on the reso side will cause excessive beater "bounce", as will a lighter pedal spring tension. Try loosening the tension on the reso head a bit if its super tight. Also, try tightening up your pedal tension a bit. Also, do you play heel up or heel down? With a 16" bass drum, you may want to try playing heel down if you don't already...this will give you a bit more control.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From JRichard

WOW Virgil Donati would kill for that.

I'm pretty sure Virg' doesn't need any help in that respect.

This is an intersting topic. I've never heard of a 16" BD conversion, but it sounds like a cool setup. Perhaps tightening your BD pedal would alleviate some of that slap-back, or perhaps changing your technique. Out of curiosity, what toms are you running with that setup? Is it a little practice kit, or small venue kit? Pics?

Best of luck with finding your cure. Be interesting to know what fixes it.

B

Vintage Drum Fan (Not a Guru)
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Ludwig-dude

There are many variables on this one......head tension, size and number of vent holes, pedal spring tension.....You may want to play around with the drum head tensions a bit....too tight on the reso side will cause excessive beater "bounce", as will a lighter pedal spring tension. Try loosening the tension on the reso head a bit if its super tight. Also, try tightening up your pedal tension a bit. Also, do you play heel up or heel down? With a 16" bass drum, you may want to try playing heel down if you don't already...this will give you a bit more control.

I have played with the pedal tension, and the heads are relatively loose, due to it being tuned low for a floor tom. I also play heel down.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From AZBill

I'm pretty sure Virg' doesn't need any help in that respect. This is an intersting topic. I've never heard of a 16" BD conversion, but it sounds like a cool setup. Perhaps tightening your BD pedal would alleviate some of that slap-back, or perhaps changing your technique. Out of curiosity, what toms are you running with that setup? Is it a little practice kit, or small venue kit? Pics?Best of luck with finding your cure. Be interesting to know what fixes it.B

I use it for my bop set. I'm using a 13" Rack, 14" Floor, 16" Bass, and a 14" snare. I hope I can get it to work out. It's a 65 Sling Gene Krupa, just with the added 14" floor tom. I will not drill anything into it.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Liatnor

I have played with the pedal tension, and the heads are relatively loose, due to it being tuned low for a floor tom. I also play heel down.

I'm a toe-guy; perhaps there's more reflect control with this approach? Is your kick pedal riser adjustable enough to get your beater in the center of a 16" drum, without changing the fulcrum of the beater? (Not sure if I'm relaying this properly.) If the beater is hitting the head way off center (or, if the beater shaft is too short for your spring tension and current technique), I would imagine the response of the beater could be a bit unwieldy.

I don't think the diameter or depth of the drum would have that much to do with attack/reflect of the pedal, given the adjustability of your pedal and riser. Tho', I've been wrong before.

B

PS - Thinking out loud.

Vintage Drum Fan (Not a Guru)
Posted on 13 years ago
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