No way on interiors!!! To me that's sacred territory, besides not being worth the time or trouble. And IF I SENSED interiors were repainted, I'd keep walking. To me that's a modification akin to re-wrapping. That's a little severe, I know.

Either an interior is clean, moderately nicked + chipped, or mauled. When repainting a mauled interior you're attempting to cover up a crime (+ perpetrating one yourself: a lie). The second : removing character. The 1st: if they're Mr Clean, how lucky!

I've own(ed) drums with interiors so crisp folks suspect they're too good to be true. So, hence, clean interiors are highly valued.

Hoops are fine.

I’m going back to a kit just sold here with repainted interior and hoops and it was a rare color but to all they liked it anyway as I agree on your take to ...

Personally, I think your both off base. It's O.K. to paint BD rims, but not an interior?

Where do you draw the line on that? So many drums were painted black on the interiors back in the day. Do you leave that? Or repaint them to the original, or as close to the original whate as you can when do a resto?

We're dealing with 50+ year old instruments. Rarely do we find them in perfect condition. Often, or almost always, they need some sort of care to "bring them back". We all love nothing more than to bring a kit back and pass it on to a new owner(sometimes myself) giving them new life!

Since it's my listing you are referring to, my opinion is this: if the drums are perfect, leave them alone! If cleaning them, reheading them, polishing chrome, etc. will bring them back, Do it! Dirt, dust and build-up will only pit the chrome more as time goes on. If more is needed, than save them! Just disclose EVERYTHING if you go to sell them.

As far as painting rims, I say tape off the inlay, and do it! This "hides" 50 years of attaching/removing a pedal.

Interiors: if you are doing no harm to the drum and there is a need for it, and you know what you're doing, do it!

FYI - in the case of this BD drum, it appeared there was some sort of sandwich(perhaps a bit extreme, but something that left brown marks) that rolled around inside of it at some point. Whatever it was, it did no damage to the shell or the wood, but was quite unsightly compared to the other drums. Also, there was no date stamp inside, that also is a factor. I made the decision to do it because of that, and you would have a tough time pointing out that it has been done I might add! It was disclosed in the listing, and to all the potential buyer(s).

You may get the sense that I am defending my listing and practices, because I am. I took offense to jaghog's early comment on my listing, but said nothing. If you have questions or comments, either positive or negative, PM the seller! Feel him out and generally you will find out if he(or she) is on the up and up, or trying to sell you junk. That seems to make more sense than posting a negative comment early in someone's listing, potentially hurting a sale.

I have a lot of trust in many VDF members here, have bought and sold to several, and I expect the same treatment in return.

I try to salvage original hoops with using the large sharpies to fill in bare areas. I have only painted an interior in a situation where it should have been white and someone painted it black. I like them original. And no wet sanding wraps for me either. Just my opinions.

FTR : I have no prior knowledge that your drum is in question. I thought this was a random query ....

BUT if an interior was already messed with - in your case, painted black - then hell yes, repaint it. The so-called damage has already been done.

There's a big difference between repainting a player's drum vs. a collector piece.

HOW MANY repaint to fool on a collector piece (w/out stating it)??? I'd say enough to make the practice frowned upon.

schmegeggie : good luck on your sale!

NOW I SEE YOUR KIT ... great kit! You stated it was repainted, so no problem in my view. Buyer doesn't have an issue either. All's well that sells well.

Hey, no problems here. I was merely giving my opinion on the subject in question, and because it was begun from my listing, I was a little miffed at Gary for the comment in the original listing, but hey, he's entitled to his opinion, as we all are.

BTW - the BD wasn't black on the inside, just to clarify. I mentioned that only because I see so many that are.:confused:

I meant no offense I’m just saying that’s all lately I am seeing the drums being sold with no touch up or repainted interiors and yes you let buyer know very admirable , I’m just saying the rarer the kit the less you touch it up , just cleaning , as most know here I am a historic restorer for different land mark sites most of the time we are repainting decorative paint or conserving something, according to the secretary of interior guidelines for conservation / restoration they really restrict what you can and cannot do . I realize we do what we think best , as a labor of love and pride , as a investment verses players kit, leave them be except for general cleaning that’s all I’m saying ,,,no harm meant ...and I’d do the same if black

Now, back to the subject:

60's Ludwig Jazzette, Mod Orange is underneath paint. Someone else ripped off the wrap on the 12, so it will have to be rewrapped. The 14 and 18:

Leave the paint on?

Wet sand paint off?

Hopefully the wrap isn't too bad under the paint, but it was painted over years ago, so it may be fine and bright.

What about the interiors? They could use a repaint as the person painting the drums did a lousy job and over spray is all over the interiors.

Let's not forget the hoops. Inlays are there, but yes, painted over.

What do you do?

I recommend starting new thread in RESTORATIONS.

Never wet sanded before. Perhaps using thinner to remove paint + then once removed NOVUS 1 + 2. Test inconspicuous area FIRST, obviously.

Photos essential.