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I was thinking today:

What is out there now (and available today) that will be collectible and command top dollar in 30 or 40 years (other than "Limited Edition" stuff and the like)?

It's hard to think of anything. I'm not sure if it's because there is such a wide variety of things being made now, or because of the "been there, done that" mentality, as companies have tried lots of different ply/shell/finish combinations, or because the next 30 or 40 years will bring a totally new way of improving everything.

I wasn't around in the 50's or 60's, but for those who were..........did we really think buying those Rogers drums or the Club Date Ludwig kits or those cymbals with the guy's signature on the bell from Turkey would be in such high demand 40 years into the future?

What say you?

Posted on 13 years ago
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Not a bad question, but haven't played many newer kits besides top end Pearls and DW's. Special edition stuff aside I wonder about Ayotte kits though. I guess having a short run of high quality starts the engines of collectors.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Based on past trends, I would say the kits that are/were produced in low

numbers. The trick early in the game is to determine what these specifically

are. Past examples to compare are Rogers MArdi Gras, Slingerland denim-

wrapped sets. Slingerland Aztec series, Leedy fiesta white pearl and their

version of mardi gras, This is the theory that I present. I think the

collectable drums of the future will parallel these.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I agree!

The reason Oyster Red, Oyster Pink, Green Sparkle, etc. are so rare is that no one I knew in the 60's would be caught dead playing a kit in those colors. The only green sparkle drums I actually ever saw were in school bands. Add to that, store owners would usually order only what they thought would sell. That spells rarity, too.

But, there are common colors such as Oyster Black and WMP that have always been collectible because they have been associated with particular drummers and maybe because they are representative of a "classical look" in drums.

Then there are those of us that saw a particular kit that made a big impression when we were younger. For me it was Blue Satin Flame (Moire) after seeing Dennis Wilson's Camco kit when I was 16. And, the kit sounded great to me.

For the life of me, I can't really think of any modern drums that I would look to for collectibility. There are some makers I admire (C & C, Ayotte, Craviotto, etc.) , but just don't have the foresight.

Of course, all of the above is my opinion. I can recall being wrong about something at least once before.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I agree... and, I have this very feeling about the new Blaemires. I think they will be future 'Classics/collectables.' I'm hell-bent on grabbing an early production kit for myself to enjoy now and to leave to my heirs later.

Much later hopefully!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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As far as kits go,I think the collectables of the future will be the high end/premium lines for the most part,Ludwig Legacies,DW Collectors Sonor Delites, Tama Star classics,Brady etc,these kits will be even more rare with the proliferation of mid level pro lines,and entry level kits that are flooding the market, with some boutique makers,(I have no Idea who) becoming collectable possibly Craviotto and or Eames,makers who have a pedigree and a history of quality and some longevity.

I think the same will apply with snare drums,with some smaller /boutique makers that make very high quality pieces becoming sought after,like Joyful noise, Longo etc.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Ayotte has my vote, with special emphasis on wood-hooped kits. Due to their cost and production issues over the years - the company has the worst customer service in the industry, IMO - Ayotte sets are relatively uncommon. They also happen to be incredibly well made (especially the hardware, with the exception of the Tom suspension mounts), and beautiful.

I had an amazing Ayotte bop kit with wood hoops for a couple of years. Hands down, the best sounding kit I've ever owned. Sadly, I didn't become the jazz drummer that I hoped, and with the satin finish that they had, the drums became impractical for me to play live.

There is already a big underground market for Ayotte parts. I began hoarding some when I had my Ayottes, and when I got rid of my kit, I sold off the parts shortly afterwards. I made a totally killing on them.

Posted on 13 years ago
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The reissue vistalites Bonham kits will always be in demand and high... end Ludwig classic special order kits... for example buddy rich stuff in any manufacturer will always be in demand and his own line of drums as well.. I do not think DW drums will. It will take a set to be off the wall or different... IMO

Posted on 13 years ago
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This is an easy question for me to answer.

If I were looking for something affordable to buy to hide away for future value, I would buy a ddrum Reflex. Yes, that's right -an Asian made mass produced Reflex. This may be 'mass produced' in that it is made in Asian factories that pump out large numbers, but I don't think there are that many of those out there yet. The fact is....I say they qualify as "rare" because they are quite original in that they are made of Alder -usually used to make guitars - and a first for drums. This is the unique slant.

Actually, I would buy 2 of these. I would use one and stash the other. Not that I am in a position to buy another kit, but if I were, it would buy one (or two!) of these. I checked one out in person at a GC and was AMAZED at how they were naturally EQed. I read that in their marketing and figured that is something they (would) all say....but it really is true. I usually use studio rings on my toms, and I would not run them on this kit as it sounds EQed already. I have never heard a kit sound like this in my life.

Another reason is that the Ice Sparkle is gorgeous!

Nope - I don't work for them....and in fact have never owned one of these....just giving my honest answer.

I need to stop talking about this for risk of talking myself into buying one when I don't really NEED one nor can afford it!

John

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Hey John, I hear you on that, I have been thinking about building an alder snare for a while now, I will check one of those kits out!

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