Nah it's a decent kit. Japanese I think late 1960s? The seller may be thinking the more recent horrific Rogers/Yamaha firewood offering.

Though I'm not pretending to be Ploughman here and just winging my comments.

Late 60's model from Yamaha I think. Decent quality, much better than 80's + crap with Rogers name on it. Check bearing edges, but should tune up and play nicely.

+1

Yahamas. I had one just like it that I bought new in 1969 or 70. Good sounding drums!

Dave

That is AWESOME!! I love the color - be careful, as I doubt you can find that wrap anywhere nowadays. That is a killer deal - and I love it when they think it is some toy or something!

Yup - you got the vintage goodness there!

This kit is historical: The first time that an American drum company outsourced to Asia to be badged with that American badge. It is like when Eve bit into the fruit. Some see it as the moment of betrayal that eventually sunk Rogers and so many other companies. Others see the positive and appreciate it for what it is (what else can we do - the damage is already done!): American engineering & design, Yamaha quality - and affordability. Generally accepted as the best MIJ of that time over Pearl and Star.

There are numerous threads on here and other forums where people argue about these round badge R-360s/380s. Many say they suck, as they have them confused with the later rectangular ones that are much inferior. I believe we have finally arrived at the time in vintage drum history where the majority of drummers understand and accept the difference between these and the rectangular badge ones made in....(Asia somewhere - other than Japan/Yamaha). In these threads - eventually someone in the know will come around and set everything/everyone straight. Sometimes it gets a bit interesting when some clueless poster will argue with a 'vintage drum guru'. (If they only knew who they were debating with!)

The rim will likely fit fine but I have no idea about the tension rods. I have not gotten that far one restoring mine - which needs all new wrap.

The snare - it is a gem - same shell as other Rogers high-end snares (I think the Chrome Powertone?) It is a sleeper HQ snare that has that Rogers and Yammy quality - you really can't go wrong with those companies involved! This video might help.....[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-jH7r8GfR0"]Meinl Ambico Camber Pearl CX-500 & R-380 Drumming Video - YouTube[/ame]

NOTE: Readers digging this kit - check this out: R-380 on the bay right now - with cymbals too!

Surely this will not last long at all.

I have a Yamaha set in the same wrap but missing the floor tom. These late 60s/early 70s Yamaha kits are beautifully made and some of the most satisfying drums to refurbish. Any 8 hole TF hoop will work for your FT. Assuming Yamaha applied the same level of workmanship to the Rogers branded drums then I think you'll find they will have nice, precise, clean edges unless damaged post manufacture.

*note the reso side bass drum Ts and claws are not original on your kit. Not a big deal at that price though.

DJ333!

Nice little write up on the Rogers 360/380, but... the snare drum sells are NOT the same as the Rogers Powertone metal shell: The Rogers Powertone is COB... the R360 and later R380 are both STEEL shells. Other than that, I concur on the EARLIER R360 snare drums as I have two of them: One with ALL Rogers parts, and the model that followed with the "Duplex" type lug designed by Joe Thompson. Both are EXCELLENT playing/sounding snare drums... but again, not COB.

Tommyp

Thanks for the great feedback. I can't wait to get them. I'll post pics asap.

I have a Yamaha D-20 in the same color.

These were made by Sakae, who everyone knows now, but they made them for Yamaha and Rogers (maybe others-but those are all I know of) The wrap is identical. The shells are identical. In fact, the angled seam is a dead giveaway! Exactly the same as my recording customs! Bearing edges evolved a bit but these are fantastic sounding birch shell drums that tune up easy and sound great.

You will be pleased!

Tommy - thanks for the correction. My memory was that The Ploughman had shared with me that there are Rogers snare with the same shell (COS). Are there such thing at all (other than Powertone I suppose)?