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Hello, I'm looking to date my dynasonic serial # 54319.

I would be gratful for any info. Thanks!

Dynafish

Posted on 13 years ago
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Dynafish!...

Yours is a tough one to dial in real close as the numbers overlapped during this period... sooooo,

It could be LATE 1974... or mid 1975... If it's LATE 1974, your drum would be Fullerton, CA production. If on the other hand it's mid 1975, it would be Monrovia, CA production.

Tommyp

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hey I've got a question about my Dynasonic snare. I've got a silver sparkle Dynasonic snare drum with a serial number of #14219. I'm not exactly sure when this snare is from. At first I believed Cleveland 1964-65 ish because of the clockface strainer and below 20,000 serial number, but I'm not entirely sure. I understand that the bottom hoop goes on a Dynasonic from around 1976-77 because of the complete circle under the strainer as oppose to the half-circle that goes on Dynas from 64-67ish. Also, I understand that Rogers painted the inside of their shells either a flat gray or a speckled paint, but the inside of mine isn't painted. Is this standard for Dynasonics or not? Thanks so much

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Posted on 11 years ago
#13
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From lcondo123

Hey I've got a question about my Dynasonic snare. I've got a silver sparkle Dynasonic snare drum with a serial number of #14219. I'm not exactly sure when this snare is from. At first I believed Cleveland 1964-65 ish because of the clockface strainer and below 20,000 serial number, but I'm not entirely sure. I understand that the bottom hoop goes on a Dynasonic from around 1976-77 because of the complete circle under the strainer as oppose to the half-circle that goes on Dynas from 64-67ish. Also, I understand that Rogers painted the inside of their shells either a flat gray or a speckled paint, but the inside of mine isn't painted. Is this standard for Dynasonics or not? Thanks so much

lcondo123!

Rogers Dynasonic wood snare drums were NEVER painted on the interior! They were always clear lacquer. The Powertone WAS painted, as was the Tower, and even the Luxor... but not the Dynasonic. Serial #14219 puts your drum at around 1968. Yes, you are correct... bottom hoop is incorrect!

Tommyp

Posted on 11 years ago
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1968 makes it a Dayton era drum.

The frame is incorrect for your drum.

Tension rods appear to be square top Rogers. However, they are not from this snare drum.

If there is no D stamped into the small squarish block that is threaded to receive the throw off adjustment screw, this throw off is not original to the drum.

Badge is overtightened on one corner. What does the inside of the grommet look like?

And the inside edges of the reinforcing rings ... I would like to see a picture of those. Are they flat or sloped?

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
#15
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Thanks for the quick responses Ploughman and Tommyp! There is no D stamped on the block like you mentioned, so the throw off is not original. I did take some more photos of what you wanted to see, Ploughman. The reinforcement ring is slanted. I also took a few of the inside and outside of the grommet.

I think it's also necessary to mention I got this and my matching kit from a man who worked at the Rogers factory when it was in Cleveland and has basically every Rogers part known to man, so he may have pieced this one together for all that I know.

Thanks again,

Luke

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  • 1959 Rogers Holiday 5x14 snare drum in blue sparkle. Serial number #13382. Large double sided bread and butter lugs. Part of my kit that was split up before I purchased it. Bring the snare home!
Posted on 11 years ago
#16
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From lcondo123

Thanks for the quick responses Ploughman and Tommyp! There is no D stamped on the block like you mentioned, so the throw off is not original. I did take some more photos of what you wanted to see, Ploughman. The reinforcement ring is slanted. I also took a few of the inside and outside of the grommet.I think it's also necessary to mention I got this and my matching kit from a man who worked at the Rogers factory when it was in Cleveland and has basically every Rogers part known to man, so he may have pieced this one together for all that I know. Thanks again, Luke

Provenance changes EVERYTHING about this drum. And it is very important for you in regards to authentication in the future. Being as it is, I don't believe I would change out anything. Everything has nice patina and looks very unmolested.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
#17
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Ploughman & DanC:

Does Icondo123's drum look like a rewrap? The reason I ask is, I thought that the edge of the wrap should have little "grinding" or router marks in it, as Dan has pointed out in another thread (pic below). Were these marks made when the bearing edges were cut (on a pre-wrapped, raw shell), or were they made after assembly just to taper the wrap?

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The Silver Glass wrap on this drum in question appears to have a clean, even cut.

Mike

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Posted on 11 years ago
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The wrap on that drum looks original.

That bottom hoop design is from 73-4, long after Rogers moved to Fullerton. Those hoops never existed in Ohio, so that part wound up on the drum long after it was built.

Not sure, but the frame could be from 67-8. The drum is from 67-8. The rods are from an earlier drum.

The grommet looks ok on the inside, and the inside of the shell looks right.

The throwoff should have the 'D'. It's an early 'square side' throwoff, so it might have been on the drum when it left the plant or could have been swapped out shortly after.

That looks like a legit 68 drum with a later bottom hoop and maybe some other changed parts. Unfortunately, without a lot of proof, a lot of collectors/buyers will be wary of the drum. If it were mine, I would take the time to find the right era-correct parts to make it correct.

Posted on 11 years ago
#19
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I'll most likely talk with the original owner over the weekend and get this figured out. He says he got it brand new with the kit in 1966 and still has the original receipt for it, so I'm going to go over there during the weekend and check it out. Thanks again for the great answers and help.

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  • 1964-1966 Rogers 9x13 rack tom in silver sparkle. Beavertail lugs, flat grey Cleveland tag interior
  • 1964-1966 Rogers 22 OR 24x14 bass drum in silver sparkle. Beavertail lugs, flat grey Cleveland tag interior
  • 1959 Rogers Holiday 5x14 snare drum in blue sparkle. Serial number #13382. Large double sided bread and butter lugs. Part of my kit that was split up before I purchased it. Bring the snare home!
Posted on 11 years ago
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