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Rogers Lug Question Last viewed: 2 hours ago

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From markrocks68

The kit I'm looking at has B&B lugs.I'm not sure of the tags inside yet but the SN are:24039-tom19685-FT21144-BD15304-snareI'm going to look at this weekend & will note which version of the logo is on there. Is it possible to date Rogers drums with the serial number as we all do with the Ludwig's?

Mark

If those are Holiday model serial numbers, those are 1969 Dayton era drums, and B&B lugs would make no sense as they were discontinued 6 years earlier. Can you post pics of the actual paper labels?

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 9 years ago
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From mchair303

MarkIf those are Holiday model serial numbers, those are 1969 Dayton era drums, and B&B lugs would make no sense as they were discontinued 6 years earlier. Can you post pics of the actual paper labels?Mike

will do when I look at this weekend. Thanks for all the help guys!

Posted on 9 years ago
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Here is Holiday tag 24494. Cleveland 16" floor tom. Keller shell 5 ply?), sharper edge and medium B&B lugs. Drum on right side is this one. The other 3 drums all B&B are Jasper shells. Cleveland tags. Please excuse in correct hoops and T rods. Still a WIP.

13015 bass long B&B lugs 22" Pirate badge.

16585 floor tom B&B lugs 16" Script badge.

18857 mount tom B&B lugs 13" Script badge.

I've also been a bit confused to the year vs tag numbers. Did they repeat the sequence at Dayton or Fullerton?

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 9 years ago
#13
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From mchair303

Don't rub it in. I had a late 1963 22" 3-ply Cleveland bass in unfaded Blue Ripple (uncommon finish and last year for that finish) with factory Beavertails. After years of searching, I finally gave up trying to find the matching toms (with Beavertails), so I sold it to member here. Only later did I realize how rare that bass was, as Blue Ripple was discontinued in 1964 and would never again be available with factory Beavertails. [Attachment: 97124] Mike

Oh the pain...lol

My Cleve's in WMP 18" bass ...14" Flr Tom ..& 12" rack Tom

Are late 63 ..3ply with beavertails..

I understand...!

Bop iT / Til U Drop iT.

ROGER's
1964 Cleveland,.18/14/12 in WMP
1966 Cleveland, 20/14/12 O'natural.
Fullerton,...20/16/13/12 Silver Glass

WFL
1957 B/R Super Classics In WMP

Snares..
Wood & COB Powertones,
Wood & COB Dynasonics,
57 Jazz Festival

Zildjian avedis cymbals.
40s/60s era.
Posted on 9 years ago
#14
Posts: 1955 Threads: 68

From FFR428

Here is Holiday tag 24494. Cleveland 16" floor tom. Keller shell 5 ply?), sharper edge and medium B&B lugs. Drum on right side is this one. The other 3 drums all B&B are Jasper shells. Cleveland tags. Please excuse in correct hoops and T rods. Still a WIP. 13015 bass long B&B lugs 22" Pirate badge.16585 floor tom B&B lugs 16" Script badge. 18857 mount tom B&B lugs 13" Script badge.I've also been a bit confused to the year vs tag numbers. Did they repeat the sequence at Dayton or Fullerton?

Glenn,

No, they didn't repeat the Holiday numbers... I was confused! Glancing at my dating guide, I saw Dayton labels 21xxx-24xxx were indeed 1969, but those were POWERTONE labels, not Holidays!. My mistake and apology to Mark. Glad my mistake didn't deter him in any way from picking up that beautiful Mardi Gras set he showed off in another thread.

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 9 years ago
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From mchair303

Glenn,No, they didn't repeat the Holiday numbers... I was confused! Glancing at my dating guide, I saw Dayton labels 21xxx-24xxx were indeed 1969, but those were POWERTONE labels, not Holidays!. My mistake and apology to Mark. Glad my mistake didn't deter him in any way from picking up that beautiful Mardi Gras set he showed off in another thread.Mike

No worries Mike!

So it's safe to assume the Mardi Gras kit is 61-62 & the Swingtime model?

Posted on 9 years ago
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From markrocks68

No worries Mike!So it's safe to assume the Mardi Gras kit is 61-62 & the Swingtime model?

Yes, '61-62 would be accurate. Did you see the 5pc Top Hat kit in Mardi Gras currently on eBay (Item 222067681900)? It's the same vintage as your set. Fairly rare finish, so it's unusual to see two nice Mardi Gras sets pop up in the same week.

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
Posted on 9 years ago
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From mchair303

Yes, '61-62 would be accurate. Did you see the 5pc Top Hat kit in Mardi Gras currently on eBay (Item 222067681900)? It's the same vintage as your set. Fairly rare finish, so it's unusual to see two nice Mardi Gras sets pop up in the same week. Mike

I just checked that out. Very cool. So the hoops are called tall boys..

Ok, now that comment in the other thread makes sense!

Learning!

Posted on 9 years ago
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From markrocks68

I just checked that out. Very cool. So the hoops are called tall boys..Ok, now that comment in the other thread makes sense! Learning!

Yes that was me and I meant the rims but considering that kit I maybe should have meant tall cans of beer...:)

Mitch

Posted on 9 years ago
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From DownTownFarmer

Yes that was me and I meant the rims but considering that kit I maybe should have meant tall cans of beer...:)Mitch

That's hilarious because I DID think you meant that! Like a "cheers"

It's good to know there is a wealth of Rogers info on VDF.

So my next question is how hard is it to find the replacement lugs?

They are different for each drum correct?

& I saw a post regarding replacement chrome ones so contact information or a link would be appreciated from anyone!

Thanks!

Posted on 9 years ago
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