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From aimeescool

I have a Rogers tower series drum kit, it does not have the correct stands on them but if i were to get this restored how much would it be worth? I heard that the 14" floor tom was rare too, is that correct? According to this web site the age is between 1962-1964.Can anyone help?

Hi Aimeeschool... welcome to the forum ..... sounds like a cool outfit!

If you would start a new thread for your set, we can address it separately from OldSchool's question...:)

Thanks.... we love Rogers around here !!

Welcome

Kevin
Posted on 14 years ago
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From OldSchool

THANKS!And here's a shot of mine.

Oldschool, in the holes were the S/S connecting rod was, what color is the metal?

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Ludalloy 10 lug supra weighs in at 7, maybe close to 8 lbs with COB hoops.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From surface

You would get more money by gutting it out. Hopefully the hoops are 10 lug COB, as they bring a good penny in itself. The small drilled holes for the butt and strainer (Rapid Strainer Slingerland) are not that bad considering that the person that would purchase the shell has the option of replacing the snare with the original hardware. Regardless of the extra holes, it is a sweet snare! Let me know if you are interested in selling it...piece, or whole.

SURFACE: PM sent.

Posted on 14 years ago
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That is COB.. You could sell it as is and still clear at least $300.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From Pounder

That is COB.. You could sell it as is and still clear at least $300.

Assuming (and I hate this word!) that a buyer could be found.Excited

Posted on 14 years ago
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Oldschool. Ok sorry it looked like pitting now I see what your describing, No the weight of a ludalloy shell and a brass shell are almost Identical! as I mentioned to you look inside the holes of the drum does it look like brass, if so then it's a brass shell, did this drum have a baseball bat muffler? I just weighted my 400 with brass hoops it weighs 9 pounds? looks like we have a dif between mine and surfaces drum, Mine is ludalloy there is no weight difference in the two shell brass and ludalloy! this road has been traveled many times before.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

Oldschool. Ok sorry it looked like pitting now I see what your describing, No the weight of a ludalloy shell and a brass shell are almost Identical! as I mentioned to you look inside the holes of the drum does it look like brass, if so then it's a brass shell, did this drum have a baseball bat muffler? I just weighted my 400 with brass hoops it weighs 9 pounds? looks like we have a dif between mine and surfaces drum, Mine is ludalloy there is no weight difference in the two shell brass and ludalloy! this road has been traveled many times before.

THANKS AGAIN for your input and your help. I guess the more I research the Ludwig COB snare drums the more confused I get. I seem to be finding too much contradictory information. Take the weight of the Ludalloy shells as compared to the COB shells for example. I don't understand why some Ludalloy shells with COB hoops weigh 7-8 pounds, while others reportedly weigh 9 pounds or more. What would account for the disparity? Weren't the majority of the pre-serial Keystone badged Supraphonics and Super Sensitives with round dial tone controls COBs or am I mistaken in this regard? You had asked if my drum had a baseball bat muffler. When I got the drum it came with the round dial muffler you see in the pics. I see no evidence that it ever had a baseball bat muffler installed. However, as I pointed out, the prior owner obviously made modifications to the drum for "whatever" reason, including the installation of a different strainer as well as an updated snare butt so who really knows what went on prior to me getting the drum? This is why I'm very hesitant to sell it. The last thing I want is a dissatisfied customer. Nobody wins in that situation.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From OldSchool

THANKS AGAIN for your input and your help. I guess the more I research the Ludwig COB snare drums the more confused I get. I seem to be finding too much contradictory information. Take the weight of the Ludalloy shells as compared to the COB shells for example. I don't understand why some Ludalloy shells with COB hoops weigh 7-8 pounds, while others reportedly weigh 9 pounds or more. What would account for the disparity? Weren't the majority of the pre-serial Keystone badged Supraphonics and Super Sensitives with round dial tone controls COBs or am I mistaken in this regard? You had asked if my drum had a baseball bat muffler. When I got the drum it came with the round dial muffler you see in the pics. I see no evidence that it ever had a baseball bat muffler installed. However, as I pointed out, the prior owner obviously made modifications to the drum for "whatever" reason, including the installation of a different strainer as well as an updated snare butt so who really knows what went on prior to me getting the drum? This is why I'm very hesitant to sell it. The last thing I want is a dissatisfied customer. Nobody wins in that situation.

Oldschool that's why this topic never ends because of this very thing,I was asking if it had a baseball bat muffler to see if it was a different timeline, honestly you should be able to see inside the exposed holes which shell it is, You might have to scrap the holes with a knife or a screwdriver to tell. I think your drum is cob, but weight means nothing between the brass and ludalloy shells, now if it was a 20's and later up to the conn era then yes there is a weight difference but no the acusticperfect shells no weight difference at least not to distinguish the difference in shell materials.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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Have owned over 12 Brass Supra's and over 200 Ludalloy. Can not tell you what the difference is , but when you have both sitting there...same size, hoops...I come up with close to 8 oz difference...Possibly the muffler is the differnce. Thanks for the clarification, as I believed there was a difference.

Posted on 14 years ago
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