Yes they are essentially Slingerland soundkings with leedy hardware, I run standard puresound snare wires.

The diecast Gretsch rims will reduce resonance. I have both types you mention and if I had to keep just one it would be the Gretsch. That being said, the Slingerland/Leedy brass shell snares are great!

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I think that the Chrome Shelly Manne snare uses the same snare strands with the metal straps as my two wood shelled Shelly Manne snares with Stick Saver hoops. I love these drums.

Thanks for the feedback! Why are the Leedy COBs a whole lot more costly than the Slingys? Rarity? Lug elegance? Or maybe the 3 point is a better strainer? The Zoomatic in my brief experience was a bit flimsy and there's no repro from what I've seen.

rarity.they don't pop up often.

I have one came with my duco kit.

Yeah the snare wires are spot welded to a strip of sheet metal. Mine are still intact. I have seen people use regular snare cord too.

I'd guess the price has to do with scarcity and the art deco lugs.

I would love to get a 4160 or 4165 for my gretsch, my dream would be to get a rosewood stain that actually matches my set with a stop sign badge.

Here's the Shelly with the duco set.

Here's what it sounds like, along with a review of the entire drumset.

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That is a very cool Leedy drum set that looks as though it begs to be played.

Great sound, all of them. I like the sound of your cymbals, there oldschool warm but still have good brightness to them, and I reckon that snare is everything if not more than a supra phonic.?