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So the skinny on old heads Last viewed: 1 day ago

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A player was looking for old orchestra batter head for his snare , he said he broke his and needed a replacement...

his friend was a chemist and said , (hope I get this right, ) the old heads came off the extruder and the sides had no stretch or very minimal and that that's why they sound so good the newer heads can have way to much stretch in them

So there's another tidbit any one have any old heads for sale lol

Gary

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 8 years ago
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Gary and members. I am a manufacturing engineer and spent 20 years in the plastics processing industry so let me explain it a little further for everyone. Some detail but not enough to go into the techno-geek realm.

The plastic that drum heads are made from are done in a process that is called sheet extrusion. The plastic pellets and other filler materials (chemicals that give it strength, elasticity, etc) are melted in the extruder ( basically it is similar to a screw in a tube that is heated to melt and mix the plastic and move it along) and the melted plastic exits the extruder through a sheet head that can be adjusted to varying thicknesses. Depending upon the process, the plastic is moved through heated rollers or calendars that help to keep the sheet pressed to the desired thickness and helps to produce the gloss finish while it is cooled. This is how the "stretch" or dimensional thickness is determined or imparted into the plastic sheet. Plastic has a "thermal memory" and will want to revert back to a different shape, typically like a swirly piece of spaghetti so that is the reason for the calendaring process. The continuous sheet, once cooled, is taken up on a roll so it can be used later.

In the drum head process it is typically then taken to a thermo forming machine where the sheet is heated, the plastic "sags" and stretched or pressed onto the rim form (similar to an upside down pie tin) and the aluminum rim itself to make the varying size heads. To ensure adhesion, a bead of epoxy is run around the rim so the plastic adheres tightly. If the head is coated, it will go into a spray booth process where they spin while the paint is applied (to ensure uniformity of paint application) and then run through a heated process for adhesion and drying.

So, that's Drum head production 101.

Yes the Geek-engineer in me comes out every so often

Michael

No Guru - I just love collecting & learning about vintage drums!

Some of my favorites from the kits in the collection
58 WFL New Yorker Blue Sparkle
67 Ludwig Hollywood Red Psychedelic
69 Ludwig Standard Red Ruby Strata
70's Ludwig BOP "Ringo" Kit

A few of my favorite snares
20's Leedy Black Elite
51 Leedy & Ludwig Knob Tension
58 WFL Buddy Rich Classic Blue Sparkle
63 Walberg & Auge Sea Blue Agave Green Pearl
66 Leedy Shelly Manne Blue Agate Pearl
Posted on 8 years ago
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Thanks for that Michael. Very interesting.

-Doug

late 60s Ludwig Standard kit (blue strata)
late 60s Star kit (red satin)
Tama Rockstar Custom
a few snares ...
Posted on 8 years ago
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Michael, thanks for the info. I once got into an argument on Facebook with a guy who insisted that the only way to remove stickers from a bass drum head was to use a heat gun. Rude little b******, basically said he didn't need schooling from an old ****. I told him he was welcome to ruin his head & that the head manufacturers recommended against using heat.

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