That is a Yamaha tom mount-early style. The tacked tom looks right, and has the normal "use whatever you have to replace the cracked B'n B's". I would not be rewrapping those...
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Thanks Ploughman. Your bass drum is late 1950s Rogers made in Covington, OH. The Rogers ripples wrap dates back to 1959 because of the 1960 catalog that the 3 ripples first showed up in. Bass drum looks earlier like a 1957/58 with the 2 hole mounts with square nuts instead of hexed nuts and 4 hole plates. Also has cracked but what looks like the lugs with the center ridge. No flat top 1957 lugs there. The tom lugs look like import replacements that might fit in the original lug holes. The tom is a bit older than 1957/58. Maybe one hole was widened a bit to make them fit-maybe not, some import lugs fit the same hole pattern. The import tom arm with phillips head screws/bolts and tom mount don't belong on those drums. Snare butt looks right and the throw is not. Extra holes might be found under that throw off. If the snare is original I would not take the wrap off it. If the tom is earlier than the bass then maybe the snare is later than the bass!? Serial numbers on the tags are close. How do they compare to the snare inner tag?? The extra snare throw off holes, if any, wouldn't be justification for removing the wrap. The bearing edges look right on both drums. Flat for the jasper bass and curved inward for the tom tom. It touches the tom head an inch shy from the half inch it is curved inward all around the drum. The big internal muffler was used by Rogers and there is a purple set on ebay now with the same double pad interior bass muffler. Eagle badge is proper for that drum and small oval is proper for that tom tom. I'd like to see an interior pic of the snare drum and around the badge grommet to see if it was re wrapped. The eagle badge was new to OH drum building around 1955 and the small oval was used up from the earlier days of 1940s Farmingdale era. It makes sense that a tom mount was drilled because most things from this era were clip on the hoop mounts. That 2 hole Swivo plate was a sign of change to the hoop mount stuff and progress for the company/drums. Big change! Hope this helps and doesn't confuse further. Gary N.
See, THATS the stuff, right there!
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Thanks much Ploughman!
Further you mentioned tall hoops. That was standard on the 57 Holiday snare. Not on all the other clip mounted tension rod drums. That year the older clip and double flanged rims could be upgraded to the more expensive tall hoops triple flanged.
Thanks everyone
Gary great info and probably going to pick your brain a little.
The snare serial # is 3518
Tom 3525 and bass 3635
The wrap is a cheap rubber wrap and 99 % sure not original.
Set came with a slingerland radio king 16x16 floor and has the same wrap on it. See attachment
Gary do you have a picture or number for the snare throw that should be on there.
You think the date on this set is ???
Also bass drum hardware that would of been on drum
Thanks for the knowledge and more picking to come
Wayne
Here is a shot of the inside of the bass drum
Looks like they filled in 2 tom mounts
What do you think?
One on each side of the one they added
Just found this picture on the web and say 50's Rogers.
Looks like this was the setup for this bass also.
Gary you think this would be correct?
Wayne
Don't know if this is any help but a picture of the snare wire
Yes that eagle badge gold sparkle bass was the popular bass set up for that era. Your drums seem to add up to hardware characteristics and serial#s to 1957/58. Search Rogers Holiday on ebay right now there are a few to see what should be on yours. It is the similar 2 hole throw off like a small Slingerland rapid "C" or the Premier Olympic with pointed handle. Is the snare tag like the other 2 pictured?
Yes tag is same
Here is a picture
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