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The innovation of Billy Gladstone Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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From an upcoming DRUM! article, "It was about that time that I realized the uniqueness of Gladstone’s wing nuts, which were not actually wing nuts, but hex head bolts with knurled lock nuts backed up to the head. The previous owner had them set up this way so the bolts could be tightened by hand. I knew this was wrong. Gladstone’s inventive imagination meant for the hex head to be tightened by the hex head socket of the three way snare key. The knurled nut was meant to lock it in place. I was also impressed with the stick holders attached to the cymbal mounts…simple snap holders meant to hold broom handles to a wall."

The copy you just read are not my words but by the author just giving you a preview of the upcoming article.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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The man held quite a few patents including the Ludwig vacume practice pad aka Gladstone pad and the remote hi hat in 1939.

Quite a guy and an excellent drummer from all accounts.

Steve B

Posted on 11 years ago
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Incredible set. Loved the man's thinking, I'm a tinkerer myself. I hope that you will post more photos, that set is sweet!

Posted on 11 years ago
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From Rik_Everglade

Incredible set. Loved the man's thinking, I'm a tinkerer myself. I hope that you will post more photos, that set is sweet!

The kit Isn't mine. It is most likely Chet Falzerano's kit, there are only 3 of these kit's in existence it doesn't get any rarer than Billy Gladstone drum kits.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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Here is some more of the upcoming DRUM! article "Saul Leslie Beimel/Billy Gladstone Set Restoration": "Gladstone’s clients for his custom drums were for the most part established, prominent players. Richard Maschal had an interesting observation when I questioned him about Gladstone making a set for Beimel (one of Gladstone's students), “Funny you should ask that,” Maschal said. “Beimel had a select group of students and we all felt privileged to have him as a teacher. It was a joy to take lessons from him and of course play on that beautiful instrument that he had set up in his living room. We all speculated that the set was originally built for Max Roach. That was the color of the Gretsch set that Max was using at the time.”

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
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From an upcoming DRUM! magazine article "Saul Leslie Beimel/Billy Gladstone Set Restoration": "My impression is that the set was built for Joe Morello. Yes, both Morello and Roach were using silver sparkle drums but diverse sizes. Roach was into the smaller 20, 12, 14 “Bop” sizes while Morello used the standard 22, 13, 16 sizes. OK, so maybe Gladstone put together a silver sparkle set for Roach in the sizes he was making. He did not offer the small sizes of Bop sets. But it seems to me that Morello’s playing style lends itself more to what Gladstone’s technique is purported to be. Now don’t all you Max Roach fans get your panties in a bundle. I love Max’s melodic playing. Roach was a fabulous player but his technique and Morello’s were quite different. I tried to interview Roach for the Gretsch book but he declined, saying he was in negotiations with a publisher and didn’t want to squirrel the deal. Still, I asked him what his experience was with Billy Gladstone. 'None' he said. Joe Morello, on the other hand had much experience with Gladstone, 'I met Billy in 1954 when he came to see me at the Hickory House (in New York with the Marian McPartland Trio). I talked to him about taking lessons. At first he didn’t want to teach me. He said, "You and Buddy Rich, you don’t need this." I said "But I really want to take some lessons from you." It was an incredible thing that put the finishing touch on my technique. (During) my first lesson, he wanted to make me (a drum), but I wanted it in silver (sparkle) pearl. That was my trademark. Billy said ‘Oh, I can’t do that. I don’t want to put plastic on the drum.’ He wanted to make a drum in black lacquer but I wanted something to match the drumset. So that was it, no animosity, he just didn’t believe in anything covering the drum.' I noted that Gladstone did make some drums with pearl coverings. Morello responded 'Well, he didn’t do it for me! If I had bugged him long enough maybe he would have.' So here’s my interpretation. If Gladstone spurned Morello’s request for a pearl covering, would he not have some influence over a student? My take is Gladstone reconsidered Morello’s offer of buying a silver sparkle snare and built him an entire kit when Morello’s fame grew. For whatever reason the deal was not consummated and Gladstone sold the set to Beimel. Sheer speculation but it makes for a great story."

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
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Very interesting reading, a great man, his drums were just beautiful, thanks for posting this

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Thanks for the heads up. Drum magazine is woefully lacking in articles on vintage drums and drummers. Usually the last page of the magazine, that's it. It's gone downhill lately. With due respect, too much ink to metal head drummers.

And I've never read one even mildly negative review of any product in the magazine.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From larryz

Thanks for the heads up. Drum magazine is woefully lacking in articles on vintage drums and drummers. Usually the last page of the magazine, that's it. It's gone downhill lately. With due respect, too much ink to metal head drummers.And I've never read one even mildly negative review of any product in the magazine.

Agreed. I stopped subscribing too it a long time ago. This article will be interesting too see in the mag.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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BIG NEWS!!! Just noticed on the Steve Maxwell Drums site that the Carl Palmer/Morey Feld/Cozy Cole Billy Gladstone WMP set has sold...details to follow.

http://www.maxwelldrums.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=gladstone&x=0&y=0

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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