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Thoughts on 1970's WMP Ludwigs? Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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Hey all,

Don't know a ton about Ludwig, but a dude close to me is selling a WMP 1970's Ludwig set, 12-13-16-22 plus snare, with Atlas hardware and some vintage Zildjians (don't have specific details on those) for around $1600 (Canadian).

What do you think?

They seem in good condition, with the notable exception of the wrap on the floor tom having lifted quite a bit. I've wanted some vintage Ludwigs for a while, but is this a bargain?

Or just an average deal?

Thanks!

PS: are these early or late 1970's?

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Judging from the tom mounting hardware, I'd say this is an early 70s set, but I'm certainly no expert.

1600 Canadian seems like a fair price to me. Not a spectacular deal, just a fair price, I think. Is a hi-hat included?

Edit: Oh and check if those drums are 3ply or 6ply. If they were 6ply, the price would be too high, IMHO.

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Posted on 11 years ago
#2
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That is not a bad deal. how many cymbals will it come with?

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
#3
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Three, I think. HH, crash, and ride, all apparently similar era vintage.

Posted on 11 years ago
#4
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the drums by themselves would go in the 1200.00 range. So not a bad deal.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
#5
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Thanks for the feedback, guys.

Re: 3 or 6 ply, I'm not 100% sure...here are some internal shots.

What do you think?

Can you tell?

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Posted on 11 years ago
#6
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they are 3 ply. And I think these are ludwig's pinnacle in wooden shells. the 6 ply will not have reinforcement rings in them. Also the wrap lift is an easy fix on the floor tom.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
#7
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Early 70's 3 ply for sure, and look like the 5/16" curved BD spurs...hard to find these babies around hence the price!!! Fair price for sure...good deal ???...debatable. They are only worth what your willing to pay. I had a set very similar ('72 stamped inside) and they were ENORMOUS!!!! Awesome tone and resonance. I believe the snare is LM-401?? Mine would "rip your face off" ! Great kit!Cool1

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From 72Ludwigs

Early 70's 3 ply for sure, and look like the 5/16" curved BD spurs...hard to find these babies around hence the price!!! Fair price for sure...good deal ???...debatable. They are only worth what your willing to pay. I had a set very similar ('72 stamped inside) and they were ENORMOUS!!!! Awesome tone and resonance. I believe the snare is LM-401?? Mine would "rip your face off" ! Great kit!Cool1

The snare drum is a LM 400 supraphonic.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
#9
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nice kit. My father has owned an identical set since new in 1976. all factors included i would say its a fair deal. dont look to make much money if you plan on re selling.

Cool1

1977 Ludwig Vistalite 12-13-16-22
1976 ludwig acrolite
1957 Rogers Holiday BMP snare
Posted on 11 years ago
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